Understanding Traceless Proof for Gamma Matrices

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The discussion revolves around a proof concerning the traceless nature of gamma matrices, specifically focusing on the manipulation of the trace and the metric tensor (eta) within the context of quantum field theory. Participants explore the properties of the gamma matrices, the trace operation, and the implications of the anti-commutation relations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a proof involving the trace of gamma matrices and questions the validity of moving the metric tensor inside the trace.
  • Another participant clarifies that the identity used is the anti-commutation relation, which allows the metric tensor to be treated as a scalar in this context.
  • Some participants express confusion about the nature of the metric tensor, questioning whether it is a matrix or a scalar and how it interacts with the trace operation.
  • There is a discussion about the indices of the metric tensor and their relation to the trace, with some participants emphasizing that the indices are not summation indices.
  • A later reply explains that for fixed indices, the metric components can be treated as numbers that can be moved into the trace, reinforcing the distinction between the gamma matrices and the metric tensor.
  • Participants acknowledge the complexity of managing multiple indices in high-energy physics and the importance of clarity regarding which indices are relevant in specific operations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the properties of the gamma matrices and the trace operation, but there remains some confusion and debate regarding the treatment of the metric tensor and its indices. The discussion does not reach a consensus on all points raised.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the assumptions regarding the metric tensor and its role in the trace operation, highlighting the need for clarity in definitions and the treatment of indices.

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I'm reading through some lecture notes and there is a proof that the gamma matrices are traceless that I've never seen before (I've seen the "identity 0" on wikipedia proof) and I can't work out some of the steps:

\begin{align*}
2\eta_{\mu\nu}Tr(\gamma_\lambda) &= Tr(\{\gamma_{\mu},\gamma_{\nu}\}\gamma_\lambda)
\\ &= Tr(\gamma_\mu\gamma_\nu\gamma_\lambda + \gamma_\nu\gamma_\mu\gamma_\lambda)
\\ &= Tr(\gamma_\mu\gamma_\nu\gamma_\lambda + \gamma_\mu\gamma_\lambda\gamma_\nu)
\\ &= Tr(\gamma_\mu\{\gamma_{\nu},\gamma_{\lambda}\})
\\ &= 2\eta_{\nu\lambda}Tr(\gamma_\mu)
\\ \mu = \nu \neq \lambda \implies Tr(\gamma_\lambda) = 0
\end{align*}

In particular I don't understand the very first equality and the very last (I assume the same method is being used in both) but I understand the rest using the trace and anti commutator properties. I understand that the 2 eta factor is equal to the anti commutator but I don't see how this allows you to pull it inside of the trace, I tried to work it out explicitly using a generic 4x4 matrix for the gammas but I can't get it.

Thank you in advance for any help
 
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The identity used is ##\{\gamma_\mu,\gamma_\nu\} = 2\eta_{\mu\nu}##. The ##2\eta_{\mu\nu}## has first been moved into the trace which is allowed since it is a number.
 
I think I must have misunderstood something, I thought eta was a matrix?

eta=diag(-1,1,1,1)
 
It is the metric tensor, the indices belonging to it are not the ones the trace is over.
 
Orodruin said:
It is the metric tensor, the indices belonging to it are not the ones the trace is over.
If it's a tensor not a scalar why can we put it inside the trace? Sorry if I'm missing something obvious. I thought the indices on the eta referred to the elements in eta and the trace is the sum of the diagonal elements and so the trace would also apply to the eta?
 
The trace is over the gamma matrices. The indices in this particular case are not summation indices and so each set of indices refer to a particular relation.
 
I really appreciate your help, thanks for your time but I'm still struggling to understand. I understand that the indices aren't being summed over, rather that the sum of the diagonal part of the gamma matrix is the trace. I'm still not understanding why the eta matrix can be moved inside the trace as this changes it from a matrix to just a scalar once the trace is taken.
 
For given μ and ν, the component of the metric is just a number that you can move into the trace. The anti-commutation relation between the gamma matrices allows you to exchange this number for an anti-commutator of two matrices (in the anti-commutation relation, the metric should really be multiplied by an identity matrix in the gamma matrix space). Remember that ##\gamma^\mu## for a fixed μ is a matrix, this is the matrix space you are going to take the trace in. The trace of ##\gamma^\mu## is simply ##\sum_a \gamma^\mu_{aa}## so the trace has nothing to do with the Lorentz indices.
 
Orodruin said:
For given μ and ν, the component of the metric is just a number that you can move into the trace. The anti-commutation relation between the gamma matrices allows you to exchange this number for an anti-commutator of two matrices (in the anti-commutation relation, the metric should really be multiplied by an identity matrix in the gamma matrix space). Remember that ##\gamma^\mu## for a fixed μ is a matrix, this is the matrix space you are going to take the trace in. The trace of ##\gamma^\mu## is simply ##\sum_a \gamma^\mu_{aa}## so the trace has nothing to do with the Lorentz indices.
Thank you very much, this really clears it up for me, you've been very helpful. So just to check, on the lhs we are thinking of eta not as a whole matrix, but are instead just considering the specific components given by mu and nu?
 
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Yes. In general, in high-energy physics you will have a lot of different indices floating around, often suppressed for readability. It is important to know which indices are intended with traces, matrix multiplications, and other operations.
 
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Brilliant, thank you very much.
 

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