How Were Galileo's Lost Fingers Finally Discovered?

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The discussion revolves around the recent discovery of additional fingers belonging to Galileo, previously thought to be lost, and the implications of auctioning human remains. Participants explore the historical context, ethical considerations, and personal reactions to the idea of owning such items.

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express amazement at the story of Galileo's fingers being discovered, likening it to fictional narratives.
  • Concerns are raised about the ethics of auctioning human remains, with questions about legality and the motivations of previous owners.
  • Participants share personal discomfort with the idea of owning body parts, despite familiarity with preserved specimens in professional settings.
  • There is speculation about the historical practice of removing body parts as relics and the excitement surrounding the auction of such items.
  • References are made to other historical figures, such as Einstein, to draw parallels in the treatment of remains after death.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally share a sense of puzzlement and discomfort regarding the auctioning of human remains, but there is no consensus on the ethical implications or the motivations behind such practices. Multiple viewpoints remain regarding the ownership and historical context of these items.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the legality of selling body parts in certain regions and the historical practices surrounding relics, indicating a lack of clarity on these issues.

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jtbell said:
One of Galileo's fingers has been on display for years in a museum in Florence, Italy. Now a couple more have turned up:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/11/23/galileo.fingers/index.html

Well then that is quite an amazing story I must admit. Something you would read about in say Dan Browns novels :-p.

It's kind of creepy that they cut off his 3 fingers and took his tooth though, regardless of what they were doing or thought they would receive from it.

I've always wondered what people receive for bring things like this to the museums to display. Do they get money or something?
 
I'm more puzzled about why an auction house would let someone auction fingers and teeth?! Maybe selling body parts isn't illegal in that part of the world, but wouldn't it at least raise an eyebrow to question where they came from?

And, then I have to wonder about the previous owner...why would you want to OWN someone's fingers and tooth? I mean, I work in an anatomy lab. I see body parts preserved in jars all the time, but that's still not something I'd want to bring into my home!
 
Moonbear said:
I'm more puzzled about why an auction house would let someone auction fingers and teeth?!
I thought that was quite odd. How would one list such a thing? Item 35 - A jar of fingers and a tooth, origins unknown.
 
Moonbear said:
I'm more puzzled about why an auction house would let someone auction fingers and teeth?! Maybe selling body parts isn't illegal in that part of the world, but wouldn't it at least raise an eyebrow to question where they came from?

And, then I have to wonder about the previous owner...why would you want to OWN someone's fingers and tooth? I mean, I work in an anatomy lab. I see body parts preserved in jars all the time, but that's still not something I'd want to bring into my home!

Lol, this is all true. Maybe however the previous owner was part of the family that original owned the fingers and tooth knowing it was Galileo's and over time it was just lost knowledge.

It is extremely odd it was sold at an auction though. It's not like they could try to say they were selling the urn they were in because the article clearly mentions everyone knew there were fingers and a tooth inside of it lol.
 
Moonbear said:
And, then I have to wonder about the previous owner...why would you want to OWN someone's fingers and tooth? I mean, I work in an anatomy lab. I see body parts preserved in jars all the time, but that's still not something I'd want to bring into my home!

After Einstein died, the pathologist who did the autopsy kept his brain for many years, carrying it around with him when he moved from one part of the country to another.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein's_brain

The brain sections had been preserved in alcohol in 2 large mason jars within a cider box for over 20 years.
 
Havn't you guys heard about Rasputin's penis?

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No, I never thought to ask!
 
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Having seen Galileo's finger on display in Florence (great museum just around the corner of the Uffizi), the best part is that it displays his middle finger, upright, facing rome.
 
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I'm really glad they've been found.I've been looking for them everywhere.
 
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Its not surprising that these were bought at auction as it seems that the practice of removing fingers for relics was fairly common. At the auction, they most likely assumed that these were relics from an unknown source. I bet it was exciting to realize what this was and be able to buy it cheaply. Kind of like a real National Treasure story without all the intrigue.

I bet antique road show would have been excited.
 

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