How wise/unwise would it be to attempt to create a strangelet?

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The discussion revolves around the hypothetical creation of strangelets, a form of strange matter, and the potential risks associated with such an endeavor. Participants explore the implications of producing strangelets in particle accelerators, the likelihood of catastrophic outcomes, and the ethical considerations of pursuing this line of research.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that creating strangelets could lead to a catastrophic scenario similar to a "grey-goo" event, raising concerns about the safety of such experiments.
  • Others question the basis for the belief that strangelet production could result in catastrophe, seeking clarification on the origins of this idea.
  • It is noted that there is no natural process that produces strangelets with any relevant frequency, leading to speculation about the safety of attempting to create them under controlled conditions.
  • One participant argues that if strange matter exists, it would likely be bound by gravity in structures like strange stars, making it improbable to create a dangerous scenario on Earth.
  • Concerns are raised about the ethical implications of creating strangelets, suggesting that any experiments should be conducted in a manner that minimizes risks to the Earth and its surroundings.
  • Some participants express confidence that future advancements in understanding strange matter will mitigate risks associated with its creation.
  • There is a humorous reference to "Little Green Men" and the idea that they might prefer to keep potentially hazardous anomalies localized rather than allowing them to spread through space.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether it would be wise or unwise to attempt to create strangelets. Multiple competing views remain regarding the risks and ethical considerations of such research.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the frequency of natural processes that could produce strangelets and the implications of creating them. The discussion reflects a range of assumptions about the properties and potential dangers of strange matter.

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Some hypothetical predictions of the strange matter hypothesis are that strangelets could possibly convert ordinary matter to strange matter in a critical reaction, "grey-goo"-like scenario.

Now, the odds of strangelets being created in particle accelerators are slim to none.

However, if we could create a device that would radically increase the odds, for the express purpose of creating strangelets, would it be unwise to do so, given the hypothesis of untold catastrophe?

Or should particle physicists strive to push the boundaries?
 
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The inference that strangelet production could lead to a catastrophe seems strange. Where did you get that idea?
 
There is no natural process that can produce them with any relevant frequency, if at all. If we have reason to expect that any future process might increase the odds over all natural processes we might want to do that on a trajectory that leaves the Solar System.
 
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mfb said:
we might want to do that on a trajectory that leaves the Solar System.

so a precaution in case we could annihilate the earth?
 
By the time we might have the chance to create such a thing we'll probably understand its properties better.
 
It can't be too unwise, since physicists have been trying to do so for at least a half century in the form of searches for an H dibaryon resonance. Obviously, that has not created a catastrophe. If strange matter exists, it most likely would have to be bound by gravity in something like a strange star, which would not be very doable here on earth.
 
mfb said:
There is no natural process that can produce them with any relevant frequency, if at all. If we have reason to expect that any future process might increase the odds over all natural processes we might want to do that on a trajectory that leaves the Solar System.
The little green men out there might take a dim view of that.
 
Space is big. Something that leaves the solar system is not expected to hit anything in the next few billion years, and might never hit anything until the heat death of the universe.
 
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mfb said:
Space is big. Something that leaves the solar system is not expected to hit anything in the next few billion years, and might never hit anything until the heat death of the universe.
Fair enough, but as far as I know, the LGM[1] would like us to keep our space pollution, especially any potentially hazardous anomaly, such as a strangelet, a micro black hole, or a magnetic monopole, as local as may be possible. :oldwink:

[1] LGM = Little Green Men
 

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