Hugo Chavez Wins 4th Term in Contested Venezuelan Election

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The discussion centers around the recent election results in Venezuela, where President Hugo Chavez has won a fourth term against opposition leader Henrique Capriles. Participants explore the implications of the election outcome, concerns about electoral integrity, and the socio-economic context influencing voter behavior.

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  • Some participants express surprise at the election results, questioning the honesty and integrity of the vote counting process, particularly given Chavez's long tenure and potential for manipulation.
  • Others suggest that the close election results may reflect high crime and corruption, alongside significant government spending that could have influenced public support for Chavez.
  • Concerns are raised about Chavez's control over the electoral process and media, with references to historical accounts of censorship and manipulation of information.
  • Some participants cite former President Carter's statement regarding the integrity of the Venezuelan electoral process, contrasting it with concerns about Chavez's governance.
  • There is a discussion about the benefits of oil revenue funding public services, with some participants viewing this positively as a means of supporting the population.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the integrity of the election results or the implications of Chavez's victory. Multiple competing views regarding the influence of government spending, electoral integrity, and media control are present throughout the discussion.

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Participants reference various sources and opinions, highlighting the complexity of the electoral situation in Venezuela, including potential biases in reporting and differing interpretations of the election process.

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This discussion may be of interest to those following Venezuelan politics, electoral integrity, and the socio-economic factors influencing governance in Latin America.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-19867445
Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has won a fourth term in office after defeating opposition leader Henrique Capriles, electoral officials say.
Turnout was 80% in the hotly contested election and voting was extended beyond the official closing time at some polling stations with long queues.

Electoral council president Tibisay Lucena announced that Mr Chavez took 54.42% of the vote with Mr Capriles on 44.97%.

I find it bit surprising and have my doubts on results.

On the other side of the world, Chavez friend Putin is celebrating his 60th birthday today.
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/russia-celebrates-putins-60th-birthday-fanfare-17416905#.UHJDiGfAFuw

I guess it's a good day for them. But I have to wonder how many more good days they have. It's becoming apparent in case of Putin that he is losing support. I have not come across anything about how Chavez is seen in Venezuela.
 
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Surprising results, considering the popular support shown for Chavez' opponent, Capriles.

But how can anyone know about honesty/integrity of the vote counting machinery? After nearly fourteen years in power it seems possible Chavez could manipulate the totals...and I suspect he would, considering his other behavior traits.

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It was his closest election because of high crime and corruption in government, but massive government spending during the last year is at least as likely a reason for his victory as election fraud.

You have lots of oil and the money that goes with it - and the government controls that.

The oil money goes into providing free medical care, public housing, and other government programs.

At least the part that doesn't get siphoned off through corruption, etc, but there's lots of oil money.

When the government is giving away free money, you'd expect it's leaders to be very popular. A close election is a sign that there's some big negatives that go along with the government programs.
 
According the US Ambassador to Venezuela under Reagan, http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/329982/what-happened-venezuela-otto-j-reich, Chavez:

o Controls who is able to stand for election via his control of the National Election Commission.

o Controls the media. "...He has jailed, censored, and intimidated journalists and closed press outlets at will. As the head of state, Chávez makes frequent use of a provision allowing the president to call a cadena nacional (national network). This measure places at the disposal of the president all national broadcast outlets; all radio and television stations must carry the president’s appearances, as often as he wishes and for as long as he wants to speak. Chávez so abused this privilege, originally created to allow the president to address the public in case of national emergency, that he averaged 50 minutes on the air for every one minute" of the opposition.
 
According the US Ambassador to Venezuela under Reagan, http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/329982/what-happened-venezuela-otto-j-reich, Chavez:

o Controls who is able to stand for election via his control of the National Election Commission.

o Controls the media. "...He has jailed, censored, and intimidated journalists and closed press outlets at will. As the head of state, Chávez makes frequent use of a provision allowing the president to call a cadena nacional (national network). This measure places at the disposal of the president all national broadcast outlets; all radio and television stations must carry the president’s appearances, as often as he wishes and for as long as he wants to speak. Chávez so abused this privilege, originally created to allow the president to address the public in case of national emergency, that he averaged 50 minutes on the air for every one minute" of the opposition.

As to the actual vote counting, former President Carter states,
o "As a matter of fact, of the 92 elections that we've monitored, I would say the election process in Venezuela is the best in the world"
http://www.financialpost.com/markets/news/Carter+States+That+Election+Process+Venezuela+Best+World/7279559/story.html
 
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The oil money goes into providing free medical care, public housing, and other government programs.
sounds good to me. Country gains benefiting the people of the country.





I would really like to see an 80% turnout for this next American election.
 

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