Hunter's Recoil Speed from Rifle Shot

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The problem involves a hunter on a frictionless surface firing a rifle and analyzing the resulting recoil speed. The scenario includes the mass of the hunter and the bullet's speed and mass, with a focus on the conservation of momentum in both x and y directions.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply conservation of momentum in both the x and y directions to find the recoil speed. Some participants question whether the hunter can recoil in the y-direction, considering the context of being on a frozen pond.

Discussion Status

The discussion is exploring the implications of the hunter's movement in the y-direction, with some participants expressing uncertainty about the initial velocity components and the physical constraints of the situation. There is no explicit consensus on the interpretation of the y-direction motion.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the hunter is on an ice surface, which may influence the assumptions about vertical movement and velocity components. There is an ongoing discussion about the implications of downward velocity in this context.

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Homework Statement


A hunter on a frozen, essentially frictionless pond uses a rifle that shoots 4.20g bullets at 950m/s . The mass of the hunter (including his gun) is 72.5kg , and the hunter holds tight to the gun after firing it.

Find the recoil speed of the hunter if he fires the rifle at 52.0∘ above the horizontal.

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The Attempt at a Solution


Vx = 950cos(52)
Vy = 950sin(52)

Conservation of Momentum in the x-Direction:
m1v1' = -m2v2'
(72.5)v1' = (-0.0042)(950cos(52))
v1' = -0.033882611 m/s

Conservation of Momentum in the y-Direction:
m1v1' = -m2v2'
(72.5)(v1') = (-0.0042)(950sin(52))
v1' = -0.043367764 m/s

vf = sqrt(0.0338826112+0.0433677642) = 0.055 m/s

The correct answer is 0.0339 m/s

What am I doing incorrectly?
 
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Is the hunter free to recoil in the Y-direction?
 
gneill said:
Is the hunter free to recoil in the Y-direction?
I know that the hunter wouldn't move in the y-direction, but wouldn't there still be an initial velocity in the y-direction? Similar to how if an object is dropped, it has a y-component of velocity right as it hits the ground.
 
henry3369 said:
I know that the hunter wouldn't move in the y-direction, but wouldn't there still be an initial velocity in the y-direction? Similar to how if an object is dropped, it has a y-component of velocity right as it hits the ground.
The hunter is already on the ice surface. Any velocity in the downward direction would have to include the ice and the rest of the planet.
 

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