HW ?: Conservative Forces and Potential Energy

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The discussion focuses on the dynamics of a pendulum system involving a mass m = 6.2 kg and a rope length L = 1.96 m. Key calculations include the speed of the mass at the bottom of its path, determined to be 6.201 m/s using the equation v=√(2gh), and the tension in the string at that point, calculated as 182.457 N. The maximum mass that can be used without breaking the string, given a maximum tension Tmax = 509 N, is 17.296 kg. Additionally, the speed of the mass at the top of a new path after wrapping around a peg is calculated to be 4.803 m/s, with tension calculations at this new position pending further clarification.

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A mass m = 6.2 kg hangs on the end of a massless rope L = 1.96 m long. The pendulum is held horizontal and released from rest.
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1) How fast is the mass moving at the bottom of its path?
I calculated this to be 6.201 m/s using the equation v=√(2gh) (correct)

2) What is the magnitude of the tension in the string at the bottom of the path?
Calculated value 182.457 using T=mg+mv^2/r (correct)

3) If the maximum tension the string can take without breaking is Tmax = 509 N, what is the maximum mass that can be used? (Assuming that the mass is still released from the horizontal and swings down to its lowest point.)
Calculated value: 17.296 using a rearranged version of above formula: m= T/(g+v^2/r) (correct)

4)
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Now a peg is placed 4/5 of the way down the pendulum’s path so that when the mass falls to its vertical position it hits and wraps around the peg. As it wraps around the peg and attains its maximum height it ends a distance of 3/5 L below its starting point (or 2/5 L from its lowest point).
How fast is the mass moving at the top of its new path (directly above the peg)?

On this one I used the chg in PE equation and multiplied the result by 3/5 PE=mgh(3/5) to give me the Kinetic Energy (since it is a conservative force)and KE=-PE
I got 71.5267 J and set up another equation KE = 1/2 mv^2
rearranging to solve for v I get v= √(KE*2/m)
I got 4.803 m/s (correct)

5) Using the original mass of m = 6.2 kg, what is the magnitude of the tension in the string at the top of the new path (directly above the peg)?

I have tried a few things using the new velocity, but I am not sure which values to keep and which to chuck at this point. Any pointers are helpful.
 
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After the string is in contact with the peg, you have a shorter pendulum with the peg as the pivot.

Part 5 is basically the same as part 2, except the signs are different.
 
Phew! Thank you, finally figured out what I was doing wrong!

=)
 

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