Hydrostatic Test and Air Entrapement

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the hydrostatic testing of pressure vessels, specifically addressing the limitations on air content within the vessel during testing. Participants explore the implications of air presence on test accuracy, safety, and the physical properties of air and water.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the allowed air content of 0.5%-1% is crucial for maintaining test accuracy and safety during hydrostatic tests.
  • Others argue that a higher air content, such as 10%, could lead to catastrophic failure and increased risk of explosion due to the compressibility of air compared to water.
  • It is noted that air and water compress differently, which could affect the accuracy of the hydrostatic test results.
  • Some contributions suggest that the presence of air may require a longer settling time before accurate pressure readings can be obtained.
  • One participant raises the possibility that the specification limiting air content may be driven by safety concerns or specific application requirements, though the exact reasoning is not clear.
  • Another participant clarifies that while air compressibility may not directly affect test accuracy, it does pose potential safety risks due to the energy stored in pressurized gas compared to liquid.
  • Concerns are expressed about air potentially leaking past seals and impacting test outcomes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of views, with some emphasizing safety concerns and others focusing on test accuracy. There is no consensus on the primary reason for the air content limitation, as various factors are considered.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention that specifications may vary and that specific applications could influence the requirements for hydrostatic testing. The discussion highlights the complexity of factors influencing the air content limits, including safety and accuracy considerations.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to engineers, safety professionals, and individuals involved in the design and testing of pressure vessels and pipelines.

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Could anybody explain why in the hydrostatic test of a pressure vessel the allowed percentage of air in volume in the vessel is not allowed to be more than 0.5%-1%?

What would happen if the pressure vessel contains 90% water and 10% air?

Many thanks
 
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Air compresses a lot more than water. IF there were a catastrophic failure of the cylinder under test with gas there would be a big shrapnel causing explosion. Using water mitigates that problem to a large extent. Also since air and water compress differently a cylinder with a 90/10% water to air ratio in it would throw off the accuracy of the test.
 
Francis M said:
Also since air and water compress differently a cylinder with a 90/10% water to air ratio in it would throw off the accuracy of the test.

Pressure is pressure.

Air in the liquid would only require that the hydrostatic pressure test have a longer settling time before an accurate reading could be obtained.

Additionaly, the air can leak past the seals easier and possibly fail the test.

CS
 
Francis M said:
Air compresses a lot more than water. IF there were a catastrophic failure of the cylinder under test with gas there would be a big shrapnel causing explosion. Using water mitigates that problem to a large extent. Also since air and water compress differently a cylinder with a 90/10% water to air ratio in it would throw off the accuracy of the test.

stewartcs said:
Pressure is pressure.

Air in the liquid would only require that the hydrostatic pressure test have a longer settling time before an accurate reading could be obtained.

The main difference between pressurized gas and pressurized liquid in a tank is the stored energy. Pressurized gas holds a lot more potential energy than a pressurized liquid, and a failure in a gas pressure vessel will be far more chatastrophic than that of a liquid vessel.
 
There are multiple reasons, but it is difficult to say what was at the forefront of the authors when the spec was authored. It could be possible that it pertains to a very particular application and thus the test must be done in that fashion. Does it say in the spec anywhere? Usually, if there is a safety concern, there will be applicable notes stating safety concerns. What spec are you using? Chances are that the safety factor is what is driving it, but understand that there are other possibilities that only someone very familiar with the spec may be aware of.
 
Just to clarify, I wasn't suggesting that there isn't a danger involved with air in the liquid in regards to the potential energy. I was pointing out that the compressibility of air wouldn't throw the test off since x psi of air is equal to x psi of liquid in a hydrostatic test.

CS
 
Thanks to all.

The many specifications for hydrostatic tests of pipelines that I have read limit the air content to 0.5-1.0%. My understanding is that the issue is test accuracy, not safety, even I understand the safety concerns mentioned by some of the people that replied to my poste.

I was thinking that the air content limit was related to the need for a much longer stabilization period (as it has been suggested) or the air would make the pressure more susceptible to temperature variations or the air dissolving in the water could cause changes in the volume of the water (!?), but I really don't know.
 

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