I am having trouble finding trig derivatives using chain rule

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the derivative of the function cot²(cos(θ)) using the chain rule. Participants are exploring the application of trigonometric derivatives and the chain rule in this context.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss their attempts at calculating the derivative, noting specific expressions they derived and questioning the presence of extra negative signs. There is also mention of input errors in an online homework system affecting their results.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing feedback on each other's attempts and clarifying misunderstandings. Some have identified potential errors in their calculations, while others have confirmed the correctness of earlier answers. There is no explicit consensus, but guidance has been offered regarding the presence of extra signs and input formatting.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the use of an online homework platform, which may impose specific formatting requirements that could lead to confusion in their submissions. There is also reference to an instructional video that influenced their understanding of the problem.

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Homework Statement


cot^2(Cos\theta)

Homework Equations


chain rule
f prime (x) = f prime(g(x) * g prime (x)

The Attempt at a Solution


I am not sure if I am just inputting the wrong numbers into webassign or I am just missing and important trig derivative and just completely off of the boat here.

the answer I got the first time is:
-2 cot(cos\theta)*[-csc^2 (cos\theta) *-sin\theta)

thanks for any help you guys can give me
 
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Pretty close, you have an extra minus sign, that's all. How'd you arrive at that negative out in front?
 
It looks like using the example I was looking at I distributed one extra negative sign
 
I think there is one more step that I am lost on. I ended up getting 2 cos theta *cot(cos theta) *csc^2(-sin theta), which webassign did not like :( ahhhh
 
You had the answer above already, with the exception of the extra minus sign.

To clarify, the question is:

What is the derivative of \cot^2(\cos \theta)?

You have already answered it above... how did you arrive at the second post?
 
yes, the question you have is right.
I worked the problem by looking at an example video that comes with our online book.
the instructor in the video further broke down from the answer in the sample problem, which was cot^2(sin theta), which the answer is -2cos theta * cot(sin theta) *csc^2 (sin theta)
 
oh i see what I did wrong! apparently the homework program did not like that I did not put a space between [-csc^2 and cos theta) wow here I was thinking I did not know what I was doing and it was just an input error, not a mathematical error! Got to love technology sometimes!
 
Glad to hear you got it.
 
thanks for the quick replies! sometimes it just takes a "fresh set of eyes" to say hey what are you doing there!
 

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