I don't understand photodiodes?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the functioning of photodiodes, specifically their construction, operation under different bias conditions, and the role of doping in semiconductor materials. Participants explore concepts related to electron-hole pair generation, depletion regions, and the effects of forward and reverse biasing.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the basic operation of photodiodes, noting that they generate electron-hole pairs when photons with sufficient energy interact with the semiconductor material.
  • The same participant expresses confusion about the significance of the P-I-N junction structure and the role of doping in the photodiode's function.
  • Another participant asserts that when forward biased, current flows easily and recombination occurs at the junction, while reverse bias allows for poor current flow and electron-hole pair production at the junction.
  • A later reply emphasizes the importance of separating generated electron-hole pairs to enhance detection efficiency, stating that reverse biasing increases the electric field and that the intrinsic layer in a PIN diode improves collection efficiency.
  • One participant challenges the need for detailed understanding, suggesting that the essential concepts are simpler than presented.

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Participants express differing views on the necessity of understanding detailed mechanisms versus a more simplified explanation of photodiode operation. There is no consensus on the level of detail required for comprehension.

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Some assumptions about the understanding of semiconductor physics and the implications of doping may not be fully articulated, leading to potential gaps in clarity regarding the operational principles of photodiodes.

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I'm trying to find out about how photodiodes work. I'm aware that they are used as light detection instruments, as they are made out of a semiconductor where photons of energy greater than the band gap can create an electron-hole pair. The electron and hole can be made to flow into a circuit - an applied electric field will send them in opposite directions, meaning that they can enter the circuit the photodiode is part of and cause a spike in current.
that much is fine.

Also, I see that they are made from "P-I-N junctions", which seem to be a thin region of undoped semiconductor bounded on either side by a region of acceptor (P) impurity and donor (N) impurity. I'm not sure what the point of these doped regions are though.

I mean, I get that if you have a P-N junction, the excess electrons near the boundary in the N region will move across and combine with the holes near the boundary in the P region (until the electric field this creates stops any further electrons moving across, right?)
If I'm not mistaken this is called the depletion region. It gets mentioned in all the stuff I've read on photodiodes so far, and I still don't see the significance of it.

Also, I keep hearing about "forward and reverse bias". I'm thinking that if you connect the P side of the photo diode to the negative terminal of a battery/source you get all the holes moving towards the negative terminal, and the N-region free electrons would go to the positive terminal- that's forward bias right?
Well, wouldn't that just make it be as if you had a completely undoped piece of semiconductor then?
Why bother doping at all if you've got an E field applied that sweeps your newly created electrons and holes into the circuit - what does the doping achieve?
 
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you are overthinking it.

when forward biased current flows easily and electrons and holes recombine at the junction
when reverse biased current flows very poorly and electrons and holes are produced at the junction.
when you shine light on the junction the photons produce electron hole pairs at the junction.

thats all you really need to know
 
granpa said:
when forward biased current flows easily and electrons and holes recombine at the junction
when reverse biased current flows very poorly and electrons and holes are produced at the junction.
when you shine light on the junction the photons produce electron hole pairs at the junction.

thats all you really need to know
I'd say that's underthinking it.

The key to making an efficient photodiode is to separate the generated electron/hole before they can recombine. Inside the PN junction, the built-in electric field is high, so that's where the detection is most efficient. Reverse biasing the junction makes the field even higher. The added intrinsic layer in the PIN diode makes the junction wider and increases the collection efficiency.
 
he doesn't need to know that to know how it works.
 

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