I don't understand the problem of the valve face is too wide

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The discussion revolves around the implications of valve face width in engine performance, particularly focusing on the effects of both narrow and wide valve faces. Participants explore the relationship between valve geometry and engine efficiency, performance, and potential overheating issues.

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  • Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that a narrow valve face may lead to suboptimal valve performance.
  • Another participant suggests that changes in valve geometry can significantly impact gas flow and overall performance.
  • A different contribution indicates that a narrow seat can cause overheating and performance issues, while a wide seat affects flow and can distribute spring pressure too broadly, impacting sealing.
  • Additional points highlight that wider seats can reduce seating pressure, limit the force available to crush deposits, and allow for cooler valve operation, which may lead to deposit buildup.

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Participants express varying views on the consequences of valve face width, with no consensus reached on the specific problems associated with a wide valve face.

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Participants reference the need for specifications and the potential for performance issues without resolving the exact nature of the problems caused by a wide valve face.

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When i read the manual, it said if the valve face is too wide and narrow, it need to cut the valve seat to meet the specification.

I guess if the valve face too narrow, then the valve performance is not the best.
but i don't understand if the face too wide, what is the problem.
 

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I always understood it was associated with the gas flow around the valve.
Quite small-seeming changes in geometry can have a noticeable effect on performance and wear.
 
If the seat is too narrow, it not only affects flow and performance, but it can also lead to overheating of the valve. If it's too wide, flow is also affected, but it also spreads the spring pressure across too much area which can affect sealing and seating. Ditto to Simon.
 
Wide seats cause the following problems:
  • Seating pressure drops as seat width increases;
  • Less force is available to crush carbon particles that stick to the seats;
  • Valves run cooler, allowing deposits to build up on them.
http://enginesrme.hubpages.com/hub/Engine-Rebuilding-Valve-Grinding
 
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