I just cannot decide what book to work through next

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The discussion revolves around selecting a mathematics book for study, specifically between "Real and Complex Analysis" by Rudin, "Algebra" by Hungerford, and "Differential Geometry of Curves and Surfaces" by Do Carmo. Participants share their preferences, study methods, and experiences related to these topics.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a preference for Complex Analysis, citing its interesting applications, while acknowledging a lack of knowledge in Differential Geometry.
  • Another participant suggests a study approach involving reading, taking notes, memorizing definitions, and understanding proofs, while also recommending solving some problems.
  • A different viewpoint emphasizes that not taking notes can help maintain focus during self-study, though some find notes helpful to avoid losing track of understanding.
  • Several participants share their experiences with the difficulty of studying Real and Complex Analysis, noting it can be challenging yet rewarding.
  • One participant humorously suggests studying Quantum Field Theory as the "essence of life," while another counters with macrobiology, leading to a light-hearted debate about the essence of life.
  • There are discussions about the importance of pacing in studying mathematics, with some advocating for setting small goals to avoid rushing through material.
  • Some participants reflect on their past experiences with teachers and the challenges of finding suitable courses in their area of interest.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of preferences for the books discussed, with no clear consensus on which to choose. There are differing opinions on study methods and the importance of note-taking, as well as a light-hearted debate about the essence of life, indicating a mix of agreement and disagreement throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various study methods and personal experiences, but there is no agreement on a singular effective approach. The discussion also reflects individual preferences and the subjective nature of learning styles.

Which Should I Read?

  • Real and Complex Analysis

    Votes: 11 55.0%
  • Algebra

    Votes: 5 25.0%
  • Differential Geometry

    Votes: 4 20.0%

  • Total voters
    20
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Real and Complex Analysis - Rudin
Algebra - Hungerford
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Differential Gometry of Curves and Surfaces - Do Carmo

Since I've spent all day without being able to decide I am asking pf to pick for me. Please tell me which to read.
 
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I'm saying Complex Analysis because it leads to so many great areas, so do the others but I think this subject is the most interesting of the 3.

Keep in mind that I don't know much about Differential Geometry if anything.

So, how do you read it? Just read it like a book? Or do you ponder and solve problems?
 
Read, take notes and memorize deifinitions, try to understand proofs of theorems, and work out some (but rarely if ever all) of the problems.
 
DeadWolfe said:
Read, take notes and memorize deifinitions, try to understand proofs of theorems, and work out some (but rarely if ever all) of the problems.

I strongly recommend solving problems.

Not all of them though. You'd end wasting all your time. I usually try to solve half of them, but no more than 10 (and no less than 5). I usually do the first three, read the others and choose which I think would benefit me the most.

I never take notes or memorize anything really. If I understand it, that's good enough for me.

I do assign some review sections though. Sections that I feel weren't as smoothly read. Sure I'd probably understand everything I read, but I want it to be something that would come naturally because that avoids memorizing it.

Basically, if you were in my class and saw me writing everything down, there is a good chance that I don't understand it. If I'm not writing notes, than I understand it. I hate writing notes. I prefer to contemplate and ponder about the subject at hand.
 
As do I, and I never take notes in class, but I find that when do self study if I do not take notes it becomes easy to lose focus as soon as I run across something I do not immediatley understand.
 
DeadWolfe said:
As do I, and I never take notes in class, but I find that when do self study if I do not take notes it becomes easy to lose focus as soon as I run across something I do not immediatley understand.

Do whatever works. :approve:
 
Go play outside. <the sunlight it burns!>
 
What in the sam heck is sunlight?
 
If I was in your position, I'd go with Differential Geometry. But that's just me. It's the one I find most interesting, I'd think...with Complex Analysis a close second. And it's also the only one I haven't really looked into that much yet. Follow your heart! It's like...a quest! To rescue the mathematical princess! And there's 3 of them...and you have to choose the most beautiful, and you get to marry her! Yay! Right...this is getting kinda...lack-of-sleep-ish.
 
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kinda?

I recently looked back at some of the notes I took in college and I have such horrible handwriting I can't even be sure what class they were from let alone what they say although I could read them at the time
 
  • #11
Study none of the above. You obviously need to study the essence of life: Quantum Field Theory.

-Dan
 
  • #12
topsquark is wrong. The essence of life is actually macrobiology.
 
  • #13
You're both wrong. I am the essence of life.
 
  • #14
Then you must be a macrobiote. :-p
 
  • #15
Hey! Respect my differences!
 
  • #16
Well, I'm working through Real and Complex Analysis.

Man it's hard.
 
  • #17
DeadWolfe said:
What in the sam heck is sunlight?
I never herd of it too:confused: but it says on
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunlight" .The sun must billions of light years it sounds like soppsed to be bright I think that has to be the only to explain why havn't seen it and why it's so bright
 
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DeadWolfe said:
Well, I'm working through Real and Complex Analysis.

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Do you like your name, Math is Hard 2?
 
  • #19
DeadWolfe said:
Well, I'm working through Real and Complex Analysis.

Man it's hard.

Just keep at it you'll get it.

If you don't, try a looking into more specialized books that teach Real and Complex Analysis as separate entities.
 
  • #20
Thanks for the support Jason. As it happens there are certainly many different books which I could learn about the topics from, but people recommend Rudin as being fantastic. Nonetheless, I might wind up only working through the Real Analysis part.
 
  • #21
And maybe not even all of that...
 
  • #22
DeadWolfe said:
And maybe not even all of that...

Reading a math book should be a slow process.

Set your goals small and stick to them. Before you know, you will have read lots.

Too many people rush through, and that's not how math is done.
 
  • #23
Archon said:
You're both wrong. I am the essence of life.
Of course you are. You are a human being, in which case you encapsulate all the qualities that make up humanity, as do we all. Since the essence you refer to is an abstract concept that can be conceived and created by any human, and because you are a human, you are the essence and being of your own life in every possible way.
 
  • #24
DeadWolfe said:
Well, I'm working through Real and Complex Analysis.

Man it's hard.
It's fun as hell. I had some good teachers, i guess.
 
  • #25
Thrice said:
It's fun as hell. I had some good teachers, i guess.

More to the point you had teachers at all. Though certinaly I do find it fun. Just hard.
 
  • #26
DeadWolfe said:
More to the point you had teachers at all. Though certinaly I do find it fun. Just hard.

You want it hard though.

The more you learn the further everyone else is from learning what you know. :biggrin:
 
  • #27
Isn't there some college near you? Somewhere you could sit in a few large classes or something?
 
  • #28
Sure, but courses aren't offered every year, and a lot of topics I find interesting aren't offered at all.
 
  • #29
DeadWolfe said:
Sure, but courses aren't offered every year, and a lot of topics I find interesting aren't offered at all.

I know it really sucks. You described what my school is.
 

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