I think I am victimized by exam copy checkers

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The discussion revolves around a student's experience with a challenging microprocessors and interfacing exam, where they scored only 40 out of 80 despite extensive studying from various books and verifying solutions from electronics.stackexchange.com. The student expresses frustration over the grading process, questioning its legality and fairness, while also reflecting on their learning approach. Other participants highlight concerns about potential plagiarism, suggesting that the instructor may have recognized discrepancies in the student's writing style compared to their usual expression. They emphasize the importance of understanding examination conditions and the need for genuine responses. The conversation touches on cultural aspects of education in Nepal, where rapid grading practices may overlook the correctness of answers. Overall, the thread underscores the tension between learning methods and academic integrity in assessment contexts.
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I had microprocessors and interfacing exam. Yes it is considered toughest subject, but I learned it very properly. I learned it from NOT reference books BUT other good books. I followed lots and lots of books for it tbh. And EMC was also part of it(electromagnetic compatibility).

I got only 40 marks out of 80. What is this? I had cross verified every solutions from electronics.stackexchange.com. I don't think that is unreputed site. Is it?

Is this even legal? It is just sad and pathetic. Anyway I am happy that I learned it very well. I should start memorizing stuffs instead of learning them creative way to get marks in my university i guess.

I think it is perfectly ok for me to be victim of this and I think this is legal as well. But what do you think?
 
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in previous threads, I noticed a repeated pattern. you complain a lot. stop whining and more studying.
 
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shivajikobardan said:
I had cross verified every solutions from electronics.stackexchange.com. I don't think that is unreputed site. Is it?
Wait, from your thread title and your statement quoted above, it sounds like you did use some copy/paste or very similar wording to answers you found on the web. But you are not supposed to do that, right?
 
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Hey @shivajikobardan, what are the examination's conditions supposed to be? The way you described things in post #1, I would wonder the same way as @berkeman.

Regardless of exact subject of the course, I am aware of two ways of performing a course's examinations: During classtime in the classroom either with or without specified allowed reference materials (reference notes in paper form, or depending on other administrative methods, "open-book"); and Take-Home, which is too easily managed as "open-book" no matter what the instructor or department intends. In the second method, a good student will keep checking into reference material to a bare minimum because he knows the topics and has the skills of the subject/course well-learned.

Something more to consider: Your instructor may be able to check on internet/web sources to find anything in what you report on your examination that fits too closely to something which was already somebody elses' work, thereby indicating that your reported response is not your own.
Still more to consider: Instructor could detect that the styling of your examination response is not how you express yourself in written form, and thereby indicating your reported response is not genuinely your own, but is from somebody else.
 
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berkeman said:
Wait, from your thread title and your statement quoted above, it sounds like you did use some copy/paste or very similar wording to answers you found on the web. But you are not supposed to do that, right?
I didn't copy paste.
 
symbolipoint said:
Hey @shivajikobardan, what are the examination's conditions supposed to be? The way you described things in post #1, I would wonder the same way as @berkeman.

Regardless of exact subject of the course, I am aware of two ways of performing a course's examinations: During classtime in the classroom either with or without specified allowed reference materials (reference notes in paper form, or depending on other administrative methods, "open-book");
in class without materials
symbolipoint said:
and Take-Home, which is too easily managed as "open-book" no matter what the instructor or department intends. In the second method, a good student will keep checking into reference material to a bare minimum because he knows the topics and has the skills of the subject/course well-learned.

Something more to consider: Your instructor may be able to check on internet/web sources to find anything in what you report on your examination that fits too closely to something which was already somebody elses' work, thereby indicating that your reported response is not your own.
thing is in nepal you paid 30 cents for checking 1 copy so your goal is to check copies as fast as possible. nobody cares enough to check if the solution is correct or not, try to reverse it and see if it brings same output or not. they will see the model solution, if the answer is similar, you get marks else you don't. there was nth in internet related to this subject. that's why i had to visit electronics.stackexchange.
symbolipoint said:
Still more to consider: Instructor could detect that the styling of your examination response is not how you express yourself in written form, and thereby indicating your reported response is not genuinely your own, but is from somebody else.
i don't get this quite a bit.
 
MidgetDwarf said:
in previous threads, I noticed a repeated pattern. you complain a lot. stop whining and more studying.
no i need to know the problems. working like a donkey takes you that far. i need to be smart and know what i am missing as well.
 
shivajikobardan said:
no i need to know the problems. working like a donkey takes you that far. i need to be smart and know what i am missing as well.
Up to this point, your short cuts have not been fruitful. Maybe work hard as a donkey, and keep an open mind?
 
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Here's what I think:

We don't know. How would we with the content of your question? OK, go ahead and complain, but nothing will come of that here without you asking an answerable question. Did you honestly think we would know how/why your exam was graded that way? How would you answer if someone in a different class asked you this question?

You get good answers by asking good questions. This one is a waste of our time.
 
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MidgetDwarf said:
Up to this point, your short cuts have not been fruitful. Maybe work hard as a donkey, and keep an open mind?
ok.
 
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shivajikobardan said:
thing is in nepal you paid 30 cents for checking 1 copy so your goal is to check copies as fast as possible. nobody cares enough to check if the solution is correct or not, try to reverse it and see if it brings same output or not. they will see the model solution, if the answer is similar, you get marks else you don't. there was nth in internet related to this subject. that's why i had to visit electronics.stackexchange.
I do not know what you said in that passage; neither do I understand why you would look in ...stackexchange for answers when taking an examination.
 
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symbolipoint said:
Still more to consider: Instructor could detect that the styling of your examination response is not how you express yourself in written form, and thereby indicating your reported response is not genuinely your own, but is from somebody else.
and then you asked,
i don't get this quite a bit.

The instructor, having some experience reading the way each student expresses himself, becoming familiar with each student's style of writing, may notice when the style is too different . Instructor might then wonder if the student has really given an answer or response which is genuinely his, or of somebody else.
 
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shivajikobardan did mention Nepal where he is attending his education. One could suspect that cultural understanding about Education there is needed for reading and responding in this topic.
 
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symbolipoint said:
The instructor, having some experience reading the way each student expresses himself, becoming familiar with each student's style of writing, may notice when the style is too different . Instructor might then wonder if the student has really given an answer or response which is genuinely his, or of somebody else.
Let me try to say this much more plainly:

Your instructor has seen how you write. If you write a response to an exam question and the way you wrote it is not the way you write (wording, phrasing, ...) then your instructor will recognize this and will believe the response to the question is not your honest response; that somebody else wrote it.

More bluntly: "This guy does not write like that. This response is not his own real response". "He cheated."
 
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DaveE said:
You get good answers by asking good questions. This one is a waste of our time.
Agreed. Thread is tied off. Thanks folks for trying to answer the vague question by the OP.
 
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