I want to pour a Sol sized bucked of water on the sun

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the hypothetical scenario of pouring a Sol-sized bucket of water onto the Sun, exploring the plausibility of interstellar clouds of water vapor or ice affecting the Sun and the solar system. Participants examine the implications of such an event on the Sun and Earth, considering both theoretical and imaginative aspects.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to maintain scientific plausibility while exploring the idea of the solar system encountering a massive cloud of water vapor or ice.
  • Another participant suggests calculating the energy released per kilogram accreted by the Sun.
  • A clarification is provided that the question pertains to the possibility of interstellar medium accreting onto an active star against the pressure of its stellar wind.
  • Concerns are raised about whether an interstellar cloud could breach the Sun's bow wave and heliopause, with a suggestion that sufficient density could allow for this, especially for neutral particles.
  • One participant speculates that if the ice cloud is dense enough and moving towards the solar system with sufficient velocity, it could lead to a scenario similar to the late heavy bombardment period, affecting Earth.
  • Another participant humorously suggests that a sufficiently dense cloud of vapor would push through the bow wave easily.
  • A participant argues that if a star were to interact with a large water droplet, the chemical bonds would be insignificant compared to nuclear fusion, leading to significant changes in the star's behavior and lifecycle.
  • One participant points out that the original question is not being addressed by another comment.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints and hypotheses, with no clear consensus on the feasibility of the scenario or the implications for the Sun and solar system. Disagreements exist regarding the nature of the interactions between the interstellar medium and the Sun.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the need for assumptions regarding the density and velocity of the hypothetical cloud, as well as the effects on the solar system and the Sun's behavior.

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So I don't feel as freaked out as I did before reading the Tips sticky about making sure every bit of science is plausible. I would like to try and keep it believable for the immersion though.

http://gizmodo.com/could-the-sun-be-extinguished-by-a-bucket-of-water-just-1669914928

It all started with this article. My brain ran away with the idea of our solar system flying through a super massive cloud of water vapor or ice on it's journey round the galaxy. I suppose it's a given that the cloud is vast and not dense enough for it to form its own star. But there is enough to add significant mass to the sun eventually.

My main hurdle is I am not sure if an interstellar cloud of anything would breach the suns bow wave and heliopause.
If there were enough mass would parts of a super massive cloud be able to breach the system?

I plan on having some fun with this like exploring mass added to some planets in the system, including earth.

Thanks to anyone who takes time to post on this.

Cheers!
 
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Calculate the energy released per kilogram accreted by the sun.
 
I can't help with an answer, but let me clarify the question for other posters:

It's asking whether it's possible for interstellar medium to accrete onto an active star against the pressure of its stellar wind.
The title is just a metaphor.
 
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evictor480 said:
My main hurdle is I am not sure if an interstellar cloud of anything would breach the suns bow wave and heliopause.
If there were enough mass would parts of a super massive cloud be able to breach the system?
With sufficient density: sure. Especially for neutral particles.
 
Is Earth's survival a factor in your scenario? If the ice cloud is dense enough, moving towards the Sol system with sufficient relative velocity, then Earth is likely to experience something similar to the late heavy bombardment period as trillions of comets moved through our system.
 
I guess a sufficiently dense cloud of vapor would push through the bow wave like tissue paper.
 
If a star were to splash into a large sol sized water droplet, it would be like adding gasoline to a fire. Chemical bonds are insignificant in comparison to nuclear fusion ie H2O bonds would be destroyed and the H2 would instantly become new fuel for the star (as would the Oxygen, but the Oxygen wouldn't have nearly the energy contribution, but would likely shift the color of the star as well). We would likely see the star increase in size and fuel consumption and end its life on a much shorter scale due to the larger the star, the even larger its energy consumption.
 
@CalcNerd that's not the question being asked here, though.
 

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