Ice cream & yogurt matrices problem

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving the pricing of ice cream and yogurt at two different stores, requiring participants to represent this information in matrix form and perform matrix multiplication to determine the cost of purchasing specific quantities of each product. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and application of matrix operations.

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Main Points Raised

  • Participants initially present the prices of ice cream and yogurt at two stores and are tasked with representing this information in a matrix format.
  • Some participants propose a different arrangement of the matrix, suggesting that the columns should represent the products rather than the stores.
  • One participant provides a detailed multiplication of the matrices to calculate the total cost for the required quantities of ice cream and yogurt.
  • There is a discussion about which store is more advantageous for purchasing the items based on the calculated costs, with one participant concluding that store A is cheaper.
  • Some participants express a need for further assistance with the problem, indicating uncertainty about the calculations or interpretations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is disagreement regarding the correct arrangement of the initial matrix. While some participants support the original arrangement, others suggest an alternative. The discussion about the multiplication and resulting costs appears to have some consensus, but the method of determining the more advantageous store is not universally agreed upon.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not resolved the issue of matrix arrangement, and there are differing interpretations of how to approach the problem without matrices. Additionally, the discussion lacks clarity on the assumptions made regarding the pricing and quantities.

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Students or individuals interested in matrix operations, particularly in the context of real-world applications such as pricing and budgeting, may find this discussion beneficial.

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The price of a tub of ice cream and a tub of yoghurt respectively at store A and store B are given below.
Store A ( 40 , 30)
Store B ( 38 , 35)

(i) Represent the above information in a matrix of order 2 * 2, such that the columns denote the stores.

(ii) 20 tubs of ice cream and 30 tubs of yoghurt are required for a certain function. Represent these amounts by a matrix of order 1 * 2 and obtain the product of the two matrices.

(iii) By considering this product, write down with reasons, the store from which it is more advantageous to buy 20 tubs of ice cream and 30 tubs of yogurt.

So Depicting them in column matrices

i.$A=\begin{bmatrix}
40&30\\
38&35\end{bmatrix}$

ii.$B=\begin{bmatrix}
20&30\\
\end{bmatrix}$

Help me to do III and tell me whether the rest is correctly done?
 
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mathlearn said:
The price of a tub of ice cream and a tub of yoghurt respectively at store A and store B are given below.
Store A ( 40 , 30)
Store B ( 38 , 35)

(i) Represent the above information in a matrix of order 2 * 2, such that the columns denote the stores.

(ii) 20 tubs of ice cream and 30 tubs of yoghurt are required for a certain function. Represent these amounts by a matrix of order 1 * 2 and obtain the product of the two matrices.

(iii) By considering this product, write down with reasons, the store from which it is more advantageous to buy 20 tubs of ice cream and 30 tubs of yogurt.

So Depicting them in column matrices

i.$A=\begin{bmatrix}
40&30\\
38&35\end{bmatrix}$

ii.$B=\begin{bmatrix}
20&30\\
\end{bmatrix}$

Help me to do III and tell me whether the rest is correctly done?

I think i. should be,

$A=\begin{bmatrix}
40&38\\
30&35\end{bmatrix}$

In this way, column 1 represents store A, which stocks yogurt and ice cream at 40 and 30 units respectively. And likewise for column 2...

Btw i can't reply to your PM because your inbox is full!
 
Joppy said:
I think i. should be,

$A=\begin{bmatrix}
40&38\\
30&35\end{bmatrix}$

In this way, column 1 represents store A, which stocks yogurt and ice cream at 40 and 30 units respectively. And likewise for column 2...

Yes I think you're very correct :) & I need help for Question II & III .

mathlearn said:
(ii) 20 tubs of ice cream and 30 tubs of yoghurt are required for a certain function. Represent these amounts by a matrix of order 1 * 2 and obtain the product of the two matrices.

(iii) By considering this product, write down with reasons, the store from which it is more advantageous to buy 20 tubs of ice cream and 30 tubs of yogurt.
Joppy said:
Btw i can't reply to your PM because your inbox is full!

:) I think you should consider exporting the messages and deleting a folder

Many Thanks :)
 
Let's answer ii. and iii. at the same time. The function requires 30 tubs of yogurt and 20 tubs of ice cream (yum..). We know what the prices for these products are at both shops A and B.

I encourage you to think about how you would solve this problem without the use of matrices as it may come more natural.

$ \begin{bmatrix} 20&30\ \end{bmatrix} * \begin{bmatrix}
40&38\\
30&35\end{bmatrix} = \begin{bmatrix}
(20*40 + 30 * 30)&(20 * 38 + 30 * 35)\\
\end{bmatrix} = \begin{bmatrix} 1700&1810\ \end{bmatrix}$

Do you know why we can multiply these two matrices together? Can you think of a case when we could not?

This settles part ii. i think, and for iii., we can easily see that the more 'advantageous' supermarket to shop from (for this order) would be shop A. This is because 1700 < 1810, where 1700 units is the price it would cost for 20 ice creams and 30 yogurts at shop A.

Hope this helps! If something doesn't make sense or i made a mistake, let me know :).
 
You're explained it perfectly :), I think you deserve an ice cream or a yogurt

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Thank you very much :) Joppy
 

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mathlearn said:
:) I think you should consider exporting the messages and deleting a folder

Many Thanks :)

Hahaha what! It's your inbox that needs emptying!
 

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