Identifying BBravais Lattice with vectors Given

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The problem involves identifying the type of Bravais lattice based on given primitive basis vectors expressed in terms of Cartesian unit vectors. The original poster attempts to visualize the vectors and seeks to determine the corresponding Bravais lattice type.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the visualization of the lattice vectors and the need to compare properties of these vectors with known Bravais lattices. Questions arise regarding the terminology used by the original poster and the method for calculating angles between the vectors.

Discussion Status

Some participants provide guidance on visualizing the vectors and suggest using a table of properties for comparison. There is a focus on calculating angles between the vectors, with hints offered about mathematical operations that could assist in this process. Multiple interpretations of the original poster's descriptions are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the lattice is described as a primitive lattice, which may limit the possible Bravais lattice types. There is an emphasis on the need for clarity in terminology and understanding the relationships between the vectors.

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Homework Statement


Given that the primitive basis vectors of a lattice area (a/2)(I+J),(a/2)(j+k), (a/2)(k+i), where I j and k are the usual three unit vectors along Cartesian coordinates, what is the bravais lattice?



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So just drawing the three vectors given gives the obvious. The first is on the z-origin and makes a 45 degree angel between the x and y axis's. The second vector is on the x-origin and makes a 45 degree angel between the y and z azis. The third vector is on the y-origin and makes a 45 degree angel between the z and x axis. How do I use these three lines to identify the type of bravais lattice?
 
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It seems like you have a good idea of how to visualize the lattice vectors. That's good, although I'm not sure about your terminology. I don't know what you mean by "vector is on the x-origin"... It seems like you mean "vector is perpendicular to the x-axis". OK, anyway, you have visualized them. So, do you have a table of the properties of the different Bravais lattices? you need this so you can compare the properties of your lattice vectors to the lattice vectors of the various Bravais lattices.
 
BruceW said:
It seems like you have a good idea of how to visualize the lattice vectors. That's good, although I'm not sure about your terminology. I don't know what you mean by "vector is on the x-origin"... It seems like you mean "vector is perpendicular to the x-axis". OK, anyway, you have visualized them. So, do you have a table of the properties of the different Bravais lattices? you need this so you can compare the properties of your lattice vectors to the lattice vectors of the various Bravais lattices.

Cool, yeah I have a table of different properties. It looks like A = B = C but I'm having trouble figuring out the angles between each vector... any tips?
 
yep, I agree, the length of each side is the same. And you are told that it is primitive lattice. So now there are only a few possible options. And yes, the next thing to do is work out the angles. If you can visualize it very well in your head, then you could work out the relationship between the angles just by thinking of it. But maybe this is a bit tricky. So, otherwise, how would you work out the angle between two vectors? And then use this method to find the three angles.

hint: think of a mathematical operation between two vectors.
 

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