Solid state physics, exercise about reciprocal lattice

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The discussion revolves around a problem in solid state physics, specifically concerning the reciprocal lattices of body-centered cubic (bcc) and face-centered cubic (fcc) Bravais lattices. The original poster is attempting to demonstrate that the reciprocal of a bcc lattice is an fcc lattice and vice versa, using equations from Ashcroft's textbook.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster outlines their approach using specific lattice vectors and the formula for reciprocal lattices. They express confusion over discrepancies between their calculations and the expected results from the textbook.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing clarifications on vector operations and identifying mistakes in the original poster's calculations. There is a recognition of errors in the cross product and the denominator, leading to further exploration of the problem.

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There is an indication that the original poster is working under specific constraints from the textbook and is trying to adhere to the definitions and formulas provided therein. The discussion includes a focus on the correctness of vector operations and the implications of reaching a denominator of zero.

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Homework Statement


Hi guys, I don't reach the correct answer to an exercise. I'm following Ashcroft's book.
I must find that the reciprocal of the bcc Bravais lattice is a fcc one and the reciprocal of the fcc Bravais lattice is a bcc one.


Homework Equations



If a_1, a_2 and a_3 are vectors spaning the Bravais lattice, then the reciprocal lattice is spanned by the vectors b_1= 2 \pi \frac{a_2 \times a_3}{a_1 \cdot (a_2 \times a_3)}, b_2= 2 \pi \frac{a_3 \times a_1}{a_1 \cdot (a_2 \times a_3)} and b_3= 2 \pi \frac{a_1 \times a_2}{a_1 \cdot (a_2 \times a_3)}

The Attempt at a Solution


For a bcc lattice: a_1=\frac{a}{2}(\hat y +\hat z-\hat x ), a_2=\frac{a}{2}(\hat z +\hat x-\hat y ) and a_3=\frac{a}{2}(\hat x +\hat y-\hat z ).
While for a fcc lattice, a_1=\frac{a}{2}(\hat y +\hat z), a_2=\frac{a}{2}(\hat z +\hat x ) and a_3=\frac{a}{2}(\hat y +\hat x ).
I first tried to show that the reciprocal of the fcc lattice is a bcc lattice. So I just used the formulae given but didn't reach what I should have.
b_1=2\pi \frac{[ \frac{a}{2}(\hat z + \hat x )] \times [ \frac{a}{2} (\hat x + \hat y ) ]}{[\frac{a}{2} (\hat y + \hat x )] \cdot [ \frac{a}{2} (\hat z + \hat x ) \times \frac{a}{2} (\hat x + \hat y ) ] }.
I calculated (\hat z + \hat x ) \times (\hat x + \hat y ) to be worth \hat y + \hat z. So that I reached that b_1=\frac{4 \pi }{a} (\hat y + \hat z ). This is already wrong, according to the book I should have reached b_1=\frac{4 \pi }{a} \cdot \frac{1}{2} (\hat y + \hat z -\hat x ).
I have no clue on what I've done wrong.
 
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z times x = y
z times y = -x
x times x = 0
x times y = z
 
M Quack said:
z times x = y
z times y = -x
x times x = 0
x times y = z

Ok thanks. I see that I made a mistake in doing that cross product (I did it via a determinant and did the arithmetics too fast, forgetting a term).
I now reach that (\hat z +\hat x) \times (\hat x +\hat y)=\hat y +\hat z -\hat x. But now the denominator is worth (\hat y +\hat x )\cdot (\hat y + \hat z -\hat x )=1-1=0 which can't be right.
 
fluidistic said:
I now reach that (\hat z +\hat x) \times (\hat x +\hat y)=\hat y +\hat z -\hat x. But now the denominator is worth (\hat y +\hat x )\cdot (\hat y + \hat z -\hat x )=1-1=0 which can't be right.

The denominator should be

(\hat y +\hat z )\cdot (\hat y + \hat z -\hat x )

ehild
 
ehild said:
The denominator should be

(\hat y +\hat z )\cdot (\hat y + \hat z -\hat x )

ehild

Ok thanks! That made it, I now reach what I should.
 

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