Identifying three identical metal bars (with your eyes closed )

In summary, the conversation discusses methods of non-destructively identifying three identical metal bars with a permanent magnet, soft iron, and copper. One method mentioned is using the lack of attraction to identify the copper bar, and another is using the effect of eddy currents. However, it is suggested that a more realistic method would be to use the bars' ability to pick up one another to distinguish between the soft iron and magnet.
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Identifying three identical metal bars (with your eyes closed!)

Homework Statement



How would you determine, non-destructively, and with eyes closed, which is which amongst three identically-shaped metal bars known to consist of a permanent magnet, a piece of soft iron and a piece of copper?


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The Attempt at a Solution



I know you could identify which is the copper bar because it wouldn't be attracted to either of the other two bars but I am not sure how to determine which bar has the permanent magnet and which has the soft iron.

Could you perhaps use the effect of eddy currents to determine which is the parmanent magnet and which is the bar with the piece of soft iron. What I'm thinking is, trying to move the copper bar in the presence of the parmenant magnet should be more difficult then moving it in the presence of the soft iron bar.
 
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Well, you beat me to it! Outstanding work!
 
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I don't think the eddy currents would be strong enough to realistically tell the difference, but theoretically, it should work.

There is a more realistic method of determining which is the soft iron and which is the magnet. It is something that anyone can do and see. IT has to do with one picking up the other. Putting the bars end to end wouldn't make the distinction, but what's an alternative way of one picking up the other?
 

1. How can you identify three identical metal bars with your eyes closed?

To identify three identical metal bars with your eyes closed, you can use your sense of touch to feel the shape, weight, and texture of each bar. You can also listen for any distinct sounds they make when tapped against each other.

2. What characteristics should you look for when identifying identical metal bars?

When identifying identical metal bars, you should look for similarities in shape, weight, texture, and any distinct markings or patterns on the surface of the bars.

3. Are there any tricks or techniques to help identify identical metal bars with your eyes closed?

One technique that can help identify identical metal bars with your eyes closed is to use your dominant hand to hold one bar and your non-dominant hand to hold the other two bars. This can help you feel any subtle differences in weight or texture between the bars.

4. How can you confirm that the metal bars are truly identical?

To confirm that the metal bars are truly identical, you can use a measuring tool to check their dimensions and a scale to measure their weight. If the bars have the same measurements and weight, they are most likely identical.

5. Why is it important to be able to identify identical metal bars with your eyes closed?

Being able to identify identical metal bars with your eyes closed is important in certain industries, such as manufacturing and construction, where precision and consistency are crucial. It can also be a useful skill for visually impaired individuals who may need to distinguish between objects by touch.

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