If Logb(x) = 0.8, solve for Logb(x)(x^1/3)

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The discussion revolves around a logarithmic expression involving the variable x, specifically given the condition that \(\log_b x = 0.8\). Participants are tasked with evaluating \(\log_b(x \sqrt[3]{x})\) based on this information.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the relationship between logarithmic properties and the expression involving both x and its cube root. There are attempts to rewrite the expression in terms of a single logarithm and to clarify the intended structure of the problem. Some participants express confusion over the notation and the clarity of the problem statement.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of how to manipulate the logarithmic expression, with some participants suggesting rewriting it to facilitate evaluation. A few participants have noted the potential for misunderstanding due to the problem's presentation, while others have begun to clarify their interpretations.

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Some participants mention the lack of clarity in the problem statement, indicating that the notation used may have led to confusion regarding the argument of the logarithm. Additionally, there is acknowledgment that the variable b is not provided, which complicates the evaluation process.

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Homework Statement



i got a question on a quiz, but i really did not know how to solve it. the question that was stated was:
if [itex]\log_b x =0.8[/itex]

Solve for
[itex]\log_b x(\sqrt[3]{x})[/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution



basically what i attempted to do was
b0.8 = x

Logb x + Logb 3√x

Logb x + 1/3Logb x

0.8 + 1/3Logb x ?EDIT:
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srizen said:

Homework Statement



i got a question on a quiz, but i really did not know how to solve it. the question that was stated was:
if Logbx = 0.8

Solve for
Logbx(3√x)
You're not solving for anything - you are evaluating this expression.

In any case, is that what you're working with?
[tex]log_b(x \sqrt[3]{x})[/tex]

If so, that's different from what you wrote.
srizen said:

The Attempt at a Solution



basically what i attempted to do was

Make Logbx = 0.8
into b0.8 = x
then i didn't know what to do ;S.

what steps do i need to do?
how do i solve for b/x?
 
Mark44 said:
You're not solving for anything - you are evaluating this expression.

In any case, is that what you're working with?
[tex]log_b(x \sqrt[3]{x})[/tex]

If so, that's different from what you wrote.

hmm, let me scan it, i don't know how to do all these math symbols
 

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I assume you mean [itex]log[/itex][itex]_{b}[/itex][itex]x[/itex][itex]\sqrt[3]{x}[/itex]?

Try to get it so you have [itex]klog[/itex][itex]_{b}[/itex][itex]x[/itex], [itex]k[/itex] [itex]constant[/itex]
 
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Try to rewrite the expression
[itex]\log_b(x \sqrt[3]{x})[/itex]
as a single power, ie.
[itex]\log_b(x^a)[/itex]
for some number a. You'll then need the power property of logarithms.
 
eumyang said:
Try to rewrite the expression
[itex]\log_b(x \sqrt[3]{x})[/itex]
as a single power, ie.
[itex]\log_b(x^a)[/itex]
for some number a. You'll then need the power property of logarithms.

that would be simple, but its
[itex]\log_b x( \sqrt[3]{x})[/itex]
 
srizen said:
that would be simple, but its
[itex]\log_b x( \sqrt[3]{x})[/itex]

Use the relationship
[itex]x[/itex][itex]^{\frac{1}{a}}[/itex] = [itex]\sqrt[a]{x}[/itex]

And [itex]x^{a}[/itex][itex]x^{b}[/itex] = [itex]x^{a+b}[/itex]
 
srizen said:
that would be simple, but its
[itex]\log_b x( \sqrt[3]{x})[/itex]

If it's supposed to be in that form as the question asks, which I suppose should mean

[tex](\log_bx)(\sqrt[3]{x})[/tex]

Then simply plug in 0.8 into the first bracket since you're already given that, and solve for x in [itex]\log_bx=0.8[/itex] to find [itex]\sqrt[3]{x}[/itex]
 
Mentallic said:
If it's supposed to be in that form as the question asks, which I suppose should mean

[tex](\log_bx)(\sqrt[3]{x})[/tex]

Then simply plug in 0.8 into the first bracket since you're already given that, and solve for x in [itex]\log_bx=0.8[/itex] to find [itex]\sqrt[3]{x}[/itex]

yea that's my question, how do you solve for x

when ur given 2 variables?

b is not given :S

heres what I am doing so far:b0.8 = x

Logb x + Logb 3√x

Logb x + 1/3Logb x

0.8 + 1/3Logb x ?
 
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srizen said:
yea that's my question, how do you solve for x

when ur given 2 variables?

b is not given :S

heres what I am doing so far:


b0.8 = x

Logb x + Logb 3√x

Logb x + 1/3Logb x

0.8 + 1/3Logb x ?

That's right. You know [itex]log_{b}x[/itex] = 0.8, so sub that in.
 
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Bread18 said:
That's right. You know [itex]log_{b}x[/itex] = 0.8, so sub that in.

the only problem is that, the answer should be 1.07 =/
 
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srizen said:
yea that's my question, how do you solve for x

when ur given 2 variables?

b is not given :S

heres what I am doing so far:b0.8 = x

Logb x + Logb 3√x

Logb x + 1/3Logb x

0.8 + 1/3Logb x ?

Ok so it IS meant to be [tex]log_b(x\sqrt[3]{x})[/tex] as opposed to [tex](log_bx)\cdot \sqrt[3]{x}[/tex]

Yes, the answer is 1.07, what's the problem? 0.8 + 1/3*0.8 = ?
 
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Mentallic said:
Ok so it IS meant to be [tex]log_b(x\sqrt[3]{x})[/tex] as opposed to [tex](log_bx)\cdot \sqrt[3]{x}[/tex]

Yes, the answer is 1.07, what's the problem? 0.8 + 1/3*0.8 = ?

ohh, ok i see my mistake now :S

this is such an easy problem, i was jus over thinking >_<
 
  • #14
Whoever wrote this problem did not communicate the problem in a clear way. The only way we could understand what was written was to reverse-engineer the solution. The problem should have been written so that it was clear what the argument of the log function was.
 
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srizen said:
ohh, ok i see my mistake now :S

this is such an easy problem, i was jus over thinking >_<
Yep :wink:

Mark44 said:
Whoever wrote this problem did not communicate the problem in a clear way. The only way we could understand what was written was to reverse-engineer the solution. The problem should have been written so that it was clear what the argument of the log function was.
I was about to ask for the solution if the OP didn't already provide it. This confusion was unnecessarily getting out of hand...

edit: the answer was written in the attachment. To be honest, it looked like effort to try and understand what was happening on that page so I gave up!
 

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