I'm pretty sure these molecules are polar

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The discussion centers on the polar nature of molecules such as CHBr3, CH3Br, CH3Cl, and CHCl3, specifically addressing the presence of dipole-dipole interactions versus dispersion forces. Participants assert that these molecules are indeed polar and that dipole-dipole interactions are significant, contrary to a professor's claim that only dispersion forces are present. The example of chloromethane (CH3Cl) is highlighted, noting its dipole moment of 1.9 D and the impact of molecular symmetry on polarity. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding intermolecular forces in molecular chemistry.

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Are there not dipole-dipole interactions between CHBr3, CH3Br, CH3Cl, and CHCl3? Assume they are all separate pure substances. My professor today said that the only intermolecular forces present were dispersion forces. Are the dipole attractions negligible due to fact they are too weak?
 
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All these molecules are polar. It's hard for me to see how dipole-dipole interactions would be negligible compared to dispersion forces.
 
That's what I thought. I'll approach her with this next class period. I don't see how someone with a doctorate could miss something so obvious. There must be more to it.
 
There isn't.
 
for example chloromethane is non-polar because it's a symmetrical molecule and its dipole moments cancel each other out...
 
janhaa said:
for example chloromethane is non-polar because it's a symmetrical molecule and its dipole moments cancel each other out...
It has a C3 symmetry axis along the C-Cl bond, but that bond is highly polar. CH3Cl had a dipole moment of 1.9 D.
 
aclark609 said:
I don't see how someone with a doctorate could miss something so obvious.

I've heard PhDs say pretty stupid things!

Depending on her particular field, this might be a subject she is less comfortable with.
 

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