Improving Employability for College Students: UK Elec. Eng.

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The discussion centers around the employability prospects of a college student in the UK pursuing an Electrical Engineering degree. Participants explore strategies to enhance employability, the importance of work experience, and the impact of economic conditions on job opportunities. The conversation includes considerations for further education and alternative fields of study.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about their lack of work experience and questions whether they will be disadvantaged upon graduation.
  • Another participant suggests diversifying education by studying subjects like finance, history, and philosophy, arguing that being overly career-focused may reduce employability.
  • Some participants acknowledge the unpredictability of the job market, noting that economic conditions will significantly influence job availability upon graduation.
  • There is a suggestion to seek internships or research positions to gain practical experience, which could enhance employability.
  • One participant asserts that while internships are valuable, they may not be strictly necessary for technical roles, and emphasizes that grades do matter to employers.
  • Another participant mentions that high grades can indicate potential productivity, while internships can demonstrate practical application of skills.

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Participants express a range of views on the importance of work experience, the role of grades in employability, and the impact of economic conditions. There is no consensus on the best approach to improve employability, highlighting multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the limitations of relying solely on academic performance for employability and the need for practical experience, but do not resolve the nuances of how different factors weigh against each other in the job market.

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Hi,

I'm a college student in the UK whose half-way through his Elec. Engineering degree. I quite enjoy my field and I get quite good grades (so far, I have scored first class in all of my courses except one.) and have a overall average of 82%.

However, I'm quite worried about my prospects when I get out of college. I want to go to grad-school for maybe specialization in Control, but beyond that, what can I do to improve my employability?

I have ZERO work experience, as I tend to focus on my studies for most of the time, and I know that employers look for past experience (and don't care what grades I got) and unfortunately I have none.

In a nutshell, will I be completely screwed when I get out of college?
 
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saad87 said:
However, I'm quite worried about my prospects when I get out of college. I want to go to grad-school for maybe specialization in Control, but beyond that, what can I do to improve my employability?

Study finance, history, and philosophy, and don't think that school is the only place you can get educated.

Seriously... The big problem that I think undergraduates make is being too career focused. Ironically being too career focused makes you less employable. The trouble is that if everyone is told to "wash widgets" then you'll have too many widget washers and too few widget washing jobs. If you have basic skills, then you can move to whatever the hot field is, and if you study some history, you'll be in a better position to know when to move in and move out.

In a nutshell, will I be completely screwed when I get out of college?

One thing that you have to realize is that there is only so much you can do. About 75% of what happens will depend on the general state of the world economy once you get out. If the economy is good, then you'll find a job. If the economy is bad, then you will indeed be screwed, but so will everyone else in the world.
 
twofish-quant said:
Study finance, history, and philosophy, and don't think that school is the only place you can get educated.

Yes, I know what you mean. I'm actually very passionate about Physics/Astronomy so I often study that during my spare time. I'm also an avid Astrophotographer... I just don't see how any of this would matter to an employer. Infact, some tell me that its a waste of time.

One thing that you have to realize is that there is only so much you can do. About 75% of what happens will depend on the general state of the world economy once you get out. If the economy is good, then you'll find a job. If the economy is bad, then you will indeed be screwed, but so will everyone else in the world.

Well, I do have 1.5 years to go + a year or two for grad-school, so I'm hoping the world-economy recovers.
 
saad87 said:
Well, I do have 1.5 years to go + a year or two for grad-school, so I'm hoping the world-economy recovers.

Use that to your advantage and get an paid/unpaid internship. It could also be a research position from a professor. Everyone wants free help from now and then, especially with this terrible economy.

I don't know where you are going to look for work but don't bother looking for any in the U.S. for the next 2 years. Job growth is still in the negatives and majority of economists don't expect a full recovery until 2012.
 
Top students are still being hired. Internships can be important, but for more technical roles they aren't always required. I would try to get a summer internship somewhere - the larger the company the better.

It's not true that employers don't care about your grades. Employers care about your grades. At the same time, they don't like taking risks on new hires. Having high grades is a great way to show that you have the potential to be a very productive employee. Having an internship with a good review is a great way to show that you probably won't be a very unproductive employee and you might be able to translate your grades into practice.
 

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