Improving Your Analysis Skills: Tips and Resources for Self-Study

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The discussion revolves around improving analysis skills, particularly for individuals transitioning from calculus to more rigorous mathematical analysis. Participants share their experiences, challenges, and seek recommendations for resources, textbooks, and strategies to enhance their understanding of analysis concepts, including the epsilon-delta definition of limits.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in advancing from calculus, feeling a lack of understanding and enjoyment, and seeks resources to bridge the gap to analysis.
  • Another participant questions the clarity of the original poster's goals and suggests a step-by-step approach to studying analysis textbooks.
  • A participant shares their experience of learning the epsilon-delta definition for the first time in a complex analysis course, noting the challenges faced due to a lack of prior exposure in high school calculus.
  • Some participants discuss the importance of having a solid foundation in calculus before tackling the epsilon-delta definition, with one suggesting a backward approach to understanding limits.
  • Several participants express a common struggle in finding accessible analysis textbooks that match their current knowledge level.
  • A participant recommends a specific textbook by K. G. Binmore, highlighting its suitability for self-study due to clear proofs and included answers to problems.
  • One participant mentions confusion regarding set theory concepts encountered in their studies, indicating a barrier to understanding analysis material.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally share similar challenges and experiences in transitioning to analysis, but there is no consensus on specific resources or methods that work universally. Multiple competing views on the best approach to learning analysis and the prerequisites for understanding the epsilon-delta definition remain present.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about their current understanding of calculus and the prerequisites for learning analysis, indicating a potential gap in foundational knowledge. There are references to specific textbooks and resources, but no agreement on a singular best option.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals transitioning from calculus to analysis, students seeking self-study resources, and those interested in improving their mathematical reasoning skills may find this discussion beneficial.

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Getting "better" at analysis

I didn't know where to put this exactly...
I've been stuck somewhere in calculus... I mean...
I've been trying to advance, but recently I haven't been enjoying it as much-- mainly because I guess I don't truly understand the content; it seems as if I'm looking for a short explanation and a bunch of formulas/methods to remember.
I'm not much of a proof guy or an analysis guy... so I guess that's the main contributing part to my problem. (I don't even know the epsilon-delta stuff!)
So, I was curious, can anyone point me to some resource, free online book, or even textbook (not to expensive) for trying to go from plug-and-chug math to analysis?
Or does anyone have any specific advice that might help me?
Thanks a bunch.
 
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You haven't made it clear what is your current situation and what are your exact goals.

I've been stuck somewhere in calculus...
where?

I don't even know the epsilon-delta stuff!
Are you supposed to?

So, I was curious, can anyone point me to some resource, free online book, or even textbook (not to expensive) for trying to go from plug-and-chug math to analysis?

I haven't heard of a smooth road. You just got to take an analysis textbook and go over the material step by step. and that means not read the second chapter before you understand the first.
 
Pseudo Statistic said:
I didn't know where to put this exactly...
I've been stuck somewhere in calculus... I mean...
I've been trying to advance, but recently I haven't been enjoying it as much-- mainly because I guess I don't truly understand the content; it seems as if I'm looking for a short explanation and a bunch of formulas/methods to remember.
I'm not much of a proof guy or an analysis guy... so I guess that's the main contributing part to my problem. (I don't even know the epsilon-delta stuff!)
So, I was curious, can anyone point me to some resource, free online book, or even textbook (not to expensive) for trying to go from plug-and-chug math to analysis?
Or does anyone have any specific advice that might help me?
Thanks a bunch.

I know what you mean, I'm a high school junior now, but I took AP Calc last year so I've been taking classes at the loacl university since, I'm taking complex analysis now and when we learned limits with complex numbers it was the first time I ever had to use the epsilon-delta definition of a limit, and because they don't teach it in the high school calculus classes it was the first time I'd ever have to use it, it was hard but after going and asking the teacher about it I think I understand it now. As for analysis I'm in somewhat the same situation as you I;m trying to find a fairly readble analysis textbook to teach myself a bit from, but all the one's I've seen seem to be too far above my current knowledge, but I guess the only option is to just pick a book and go over the material until it makes sense and if doesn't then you could always ask here or one of your math teachers...
 
d_leet said:
I know what you mean, I'm a high school junior now, but I took AP Calc last year so I've been taking classes at the loacl university since, I'm taking complex analysis now and when we learned limits with complex numbers it was the first time I ever had to use the epsilon-delta definition of a limit, and because they don't teach it in the high school calculus classes it was the first time I'd ever have to use it, it was hard but after going and asking the teacher about it I think I understand it now. As for analysis I'm in somewhat the same situation as you I;m trying to find a fairly readble analysis textbook to teach myself a bit from, but all the one's I've seen seem to be too far above my current knowledge, but I guess the only option is to just pick a book and go over the material until it makes sense and if doesn't then you could always ask here or one of your math teachers...

I found that for the epsilon-delta limit definition limit that it is better to work backwards and not forward.

It's like backward logic. You probably know this already, but when I was told about this, it made it easier to solve for some cases.
 
JasonRox said:
I found that for the epsilon-delta limit definition limit that it is better to work backwards and not forward.

It's like backward logic. You probably know this already, but when I was told about this, it made it easier to solve for some cases.

I'm sorry but I don't understand what you mean? Do you mean having a good knowledge of calculus and how it works before you learn the epsilon-delta definition?
 
Here's a thread where I explain thoroughly the definition of limit and work out a specific exemple in some details. I should have also included a picture illustrating the geometrical representation of epsilon-delta convergence as it greatly helps grasping the how and why of epsilon-delta.

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=54175&highlight=limit
 
d_leet said:
I'm sorry but I don't understand what you mean? Do you mean having a good knowledge of calculus and how it works before you learn the epsilon-delta definition?

I meant proofs regarding the epsilon-delta definition.
 
quasar987 said:
You haven't made it clear what is your current situation and what are your exact goals.

where?

Are you supposed to?



I haven't heard of a smooth road. You just got to take an analysis textbook and go over the material step by step. and that means not read the second chapter before you understand the first.
Well, my exact goal is to get myself up to understanding multivariable calculus.
At the moment I'm stuck somewhere inbetween integral & differential calculus and multi-var calculus, but as I said I don't really understand the stuff much with my lack of background... I mean, I know the techniques and such, but I can't prove things...
Can you recommend any analysis textbooks in particular? I'm looking for something not TOO costly.

d_leet said:
I know what you mean, I'm a high school junior now, but I took AP Calc last year so I've been taking classes at the loacl university since, I'm taking complex analysis now and when we learned limits with complex numbers it was the first time I ever had to use the epsilon-delta definition of a limit, and because they don't teach it in the high school calculus classes it was the first time I'd ever have to use it, it was hard but after going and asking the teacher about it I think I understand it now. As for analysis I'm in somewhat the same situation as you I;m trying to find a fairly readble analysis textbook to teach myself a bit from, but all the one's I've seen seem to be too far above my current knowledge, but I guess the only option is to just pick a book and go over the material until it makes sense and if doesn't then you could always ask here or one of your math teachers...
True... after looking around the forum a bit I found "Zakon's Mathematical Analysis I".
It looks good... but the only problem is the set theory stuff is confusing the crap out of me. :\ It's hard to remember what symbol means what.
By the way, you don't know how lucky you are that you had the chance to take an AP Calculus class and take courses at a university.

Here's a thread where I explain thoroughly the definition of limit and work out a specific exemple in some details. I should have also included a picture illustrating the geometrical representation of epsilon-delta convergence as it greatly helps grasping the how and why of epsilon-delta.

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthr...ighlight=limit
Hey, thanks... I'm sure this'll help. :D
 
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For an excellent introduction to elementary analysis, I would suggest https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0521288827/?tag=pfamazon01-20 by K. G. Binmore. The author provides numerous examples, his proofs are clear and answers to ALL problems are in the back of the book. It is thus a great choice for self-study. You can get it used on Amazon for about $15.
 
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Zakon's not too bad. It does take awhile though, especially if it's your first time with some of the notation. I haven't read the Binmore text. It sounds like it could be a good supplement for self study while taking Calculus.
 

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