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The discussion focuses on solving an impulse and momentum problem involving two skaters colliding and moving together post-collision. The skaters have masses of 50.0 kg and 70.0 kg, traveling at speeds of 3.00 m/s and 7.00 m/s, respectively. The angle theta south of east is calculated to be 73.0 degrees, while the final speed v(f) after the collision is determined to be approximately 4.28 m/s. The key concept utilized in solving the problem is the conservation of momentum, treating the momenta as vectors.

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[SOLVED] Impulse and Momentum problem on skaters

Homework Statement



A 50.0-kg skater is traveling due east at a speed of 3.00 m/s. A 70.0-kg skater is moving due south at a speed of 7.00 m/s. They collide and hold on to each other after the collision, managing to move off at an angle theta south of east, with a speed of v(f). Find (a) the angle theta and (b) the speed v(f), assuming that friction can be ignored.

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Momentum = mass * volume

The Attempt at a Solution



I first decided to find the angle theta. I drew a picture on a separate sheet of paper (sorry, I don't have a way of posting an image here, but it should be easy to reproduce) to make the problem look easier. I used tan theta=(opposite/adjacent) but I got 66.8 degrees as my answer with 7 as the opposite and 3 as the adjacent, whereas my answer booklet says 73.0 degrees. I thought velocities could be treated as vectors.

Also, for part b, the answer is 4.28 m/s, but I also don't know how to get this answer. I thought I could use the pythagorean theorem, but that doesn't work. It seems like I'm missing some vital concepts here. Any help would be appreciated.
 
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The "vital concept here" is simply conservation of momentum. we have 2 objects each moving in one direction then they collide and begin moving in a 2 dimensional path. So find the initial momentum south m*v and set it equal to the new mass of the skaters together. This will give us the first component of our final velocity vector. Then do the same with the eastward momentum. then once you have a final east velocity and a south velocity you can add them using the Pythagorean theorem.
 
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I used tan theta=(opposite/adjacent) but I got 66.8 degrees as my answer with 7 as the opposite and 3 as the adjacent, whereas my answer booklet says 73.0 degrees. I thought velocities could be treated as vectors.

You're finding the relative velocity! :rolleyes:

Hint: momentums can be treated as vectors also. :wink:
 
Thank you! I found both answers (well, I got 4.27 m/s for part b but that's just 0.01 off) correctly!
 
The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

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