In the case of a contradicted conditional given:

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The discussion revolves around the logical structure of proofs involving disjunctions, specifically the implications of assuming one case at a time when contradictions arise. The original poster presents a scenario where they are tasked with proving a statement based on the disjunction of multiple cases (A, B, C, etc.) and questions how to handle contradictions that may arise from these assumptions.

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  • Participants explore the validity of ignoring contradictions when assuming cases in a proof. There is discussion about the necessity of showing that each case leads to a true conclusion and the implications of having one or more assumptions being false.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the nature of logical proofs and the handling of contradictions. Some participants suggest that not all cases need to be true if one assumption leads to a contradiction, while others emphasize the importance of ensuring that the disjunction remains valid under the given constraints.

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There is a focus on the implications of having multiple cases in logical statements and the effect of known falsehoods on the proof structure. The original poster's understanding of case-by-case proofs is being examined, particularly in light of the constraints imposed by contradictions.

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If I have a given in a proof in the form:
A or B or C ... etc. etc. and if I choose to approach this given in a case by case basis: (assuming one of the A,B,C... one at a time) and if one or more of the assumptions contradicts some other given in the proof does that mean that I can simply ignore that possibility?

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For example: if A or B or C

case1: Assume A
Contradiction
Therefore B or C

I was under the impression that in order for a case-by-case proof to suceed you need to ensure that all the possible cases come out to be true, however what about this situation:

Assume not A

A or B or C
case1: A
However, not A, contradiction

case 2: B
...
Goal is true
case 3: C
...
Goal is true
 
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Are you talking about a statement like: If A or B or C, then D? To show that statement is true, you need to show A→D, B→D, and C→D.

You can't infer that if A is false, then B or C is true. It's possible for A, B, and C to all be false, right?
 
I think he might be thinking Given (A or B or C) and not(A) then B or C.
 
Kurtz is correct, the given would be of a form
(A or B or C)
Though it doesn't have to have three possibilities, it could have as arbitrarily many, it doesn't really matter for the sake of this discussion, just as long as there are 2 or more.
 
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I was under the impression that in order for a case-by-case proof to suceed you need to ensure that all the possible cases come out to be true, however what about this situation:

Assume not A

A or B or C
case1: A
However, not A, contradiction

You do need to ensure that each case comes out true. That means that ( A or B or C) can be made true in each case. If you are given A is false, you will not have a case where you assume A is true.

Normally if you have n statements, you will have ##2^n## possible combinations of T/F in a truth table. Constraints such as A is false simply reduce the number of potential cases to look at. Now there are only ##2^2## combinations to consider. Only one of which makes the first statement (A or B or C) false.
 

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