In this case, the correct dot product is 22a.a + 15a.b - 3b.b.

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around expanding and simplifying the dot product of two vector expressions: (2a + 3b) · (5a - b). Participants are exploring the properties of the dot product in the context of vector algebra.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants attempt to expand the dot product and express their confusion regarding the correct application of dot product properties. Questions arise about the interpretation of terms like a·a and the simplification of coefficients.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing clarification regarding the properties of the dot product, with some participants questioning their understanding of vector multiplication. Multiple interpretations of the coefficients and terms are being explored, and guidance has been offered regarding the correct notation and simplification.

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Participants note potential mistakes in the original problem setup and express confusion about the notation used for vector operations. There is a recognition that some terms may have been misrepresented in earlier posts.

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Homework Statement


Expand and simplify:
(2[tex]\vec{a}[/tex] + 3[tex]\vec{b}[/tex]) .(5[tex]\vec{a}[/tex] - [tex]\vec{b}[/tex]


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The Attempt at a Solution



I tried expanding it, but was a little confused, and would really appreciate any help..would it be (2[tex]\vec{a}[/tex])([tex]\vec{a}[/tex]) = 2 [tex]\vec{a}[/tex]2?

Thanks..
 
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spoc21 said:

Homework Statement


Expand and simplify:
(2[tex]\vec{a}[/tex] + 3[tex]\vec{b}[/tex]) .(5[tex]\vec{a}[/tex] - [tex]\vec{b}[/tex]


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I tried expanding it, but was a little confused, and would really appreciate any help..would it be (2[tex]\vec{a}[/tex])([tex]\vec{a}[/tex]) = 2 [tex]\vec{a}[/tex]2?

Thanks..
As your final answer? No. The dot product has a bunch of properties, some of which apply in this problem.
 
like 10 a 2 - 3 b2

now I am confused, could you please elaborate on the properties that you mentioned before.
thanks
 
10a2 - 3b2 is not the right answer. What does a2 even mean?

What's a [itex]\cdot[/itex] (b + c)?
What's a [itex]\cdot[/itex] a?
 
ok, so using the distributive property of Dot product, I got:

-10a2+2 ab + 15 ab - 3b2

Simplifying we get:

-10a2+ 17 ab - 3b2

is this correct?
 
No, this is incorrect for two reasons.
a[itex]\cdot[/itex]a [itex]\neq[/itex]a2. These are vectors and they are being multiplied using the dot product. There is a property of the dot product that allows you to do something with a[itex]\cdot[/itex]a.

Also, two of your three coefficients are wrong.
 
Mark44 said:
No, this is incorrect for two reasons.
a[itex]\cdot[/itex]a [itex]\neq[/itex]a2. These are vectors and they are being multiplied using the dot product. There is a property of the dot product that allows you to do something with a[itex]\cdot[/itex]a.

Also, two of your three coefficients are wrong.

I always thought that
a.a = lal2 (this isn't correct?)

Two of my three coefficients are wrong? (please note that I made a mistake copying down the question in my first post, it is actually -2 a instead of 2 a). Is this correct?

Thanks..
 
spoc21 said:
I always thought that
a.a = lal2 (this isn't correct?)
This is correct.
spoc21 said:
Two of my three coefficients are wrong? (please note that I made a mistake copying down the question in my first post, it is actually -2 a instead of 2 a). Is this correct?

Thanks..
OK, then the coefficients are correct, but you shouldn't write a2, b2, or ab. All of these are dot products, and you should simplify the a.a and b.b terms.
 

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