Increase in Radius when a Star becomes a Red Giant

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The discussion focuses on the significant increase in a star's radius during its transition to the red giant phase, specifically addressing the Sun's potential expansion to between 100 and 200 times its current radius. The MESA (Modules for Experiments in Stellar Astrophysics) simulations indicate that the typical radius during this phase can be approximated with a logarithmic value of log_R = 2.24, equating to roughly 175 times the current solar radius. The variability in predictions is attributed to factors such as the star's mass and chemical composition, which influence its evolutionary path and hydrostatic equilibrium.

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Hi there,
I have a question regarding the life cycle of a star. I know that when entering the red giant phase of a star's life, its radius/overall size will increase dramatically, but I was wondering if there's a basic way to determine the factor it will grow by during this process.

I've seen predictions for our Sun's expansion range from 100x its current radius to 200x its current radius, but the considerable difference between these two measurements left me skeptical.

Is there a formula to determine (even an approximation of) what a star's radius as a red giant may be?
 
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You might want to start here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellar_evolution

The precise evolutionary track of a star depends quite sensitively on its mass and chemical composition (which in turn determine what types of nuclear reactions occur in the star (which in turn determine the energy output of a star (which in turn determines the star's hydrostatic equilibrium (which in turn determine the size of the star)))). So it's not a terribly straightforward problem. Maybe there's a simple formula for certain cases, but I don't know it.
 
The http://mesa.sourceforge.net/assets/movies/1M_pre_ms_to_wd.mov is a great resource for looking at how stars of different masses and compositions evolve. http://mesa.sourceforge.net/assets/movies/1M_pre_ms_to_wd.mov has a movie of the evolution of a star like the sun. The radius changes a lot over time, which probably explains the different numbers you are seeing.

According to that MESA movie, most of the the red giant phase has a log_R = 2.24, which is about 175 times the current solar radius.
 
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phyzguy said:
The http://mesa.sourceforge.net/assets/movies/1M_pre_ms_to_wd.mov is a great resource for looking at how stars of different masses and compositions evolve. http://mesa.sourceforge.net/assets/movies/1M_pre_ms_to_wd.mov has a movie of the evolution of a star like the sun. The radius changes a lot over time, which probably explains the different numbers you are seeing.

According to that MESA movie, most of the the red giant phase has a log_R = 2.24, which is about 175 times the current solar radius.

This is just what I was looking for, thank you!
 

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