Independent project on field theory

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a 7th grader's independent project on field theory, encompassing both classical and quantum aspects. The participant seeks guidance on suitable topics that integrate astronomy and chemistry, as well as suggestions for further exploration within the scope of their project.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how the original poster can claim to understand field theory while struggling with advanced calculus.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism about the feasibility of studying field theory without a solid mathematical foundation, suggesting that it is typically introduced at the graduate level.
  • Some participants encourage the original poster's enthusiasm but recommend focusing on topics more aligned with their current mathematical skills.
  • The original poster clarifies that they have already covered basic concepts of field theory, including vectors, scalars, spinors, tensors, and various fields, while acknowledging gaps in their understanding.
  • The original poster mentions including Newtonian gravitation and basic electromagnetism in their project, along with conceptual explanations of general relativity, QED, QCD, and spin.
  • There is a request for suggestions on how to deepen their project further.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally express concern about the appropriateness of the project given the original poster's current level of mathematical knowledge. There is no consensus on the feasibility of the project or the best path forward, as opinions vary on the complexity of field theory and the prerequisites needed for understanding it.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in the original poster's mathematical background and the complexity of field theory as a topic. There is an acknowledgment of the need for a solid foundation in calculus and other mathematical concepts before tackling advanced physics topics.

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Hi all,

I am in 7th grade science, but I have a lot of interest in advanced physics (and I am really bored in class), so I am currently working on an independent project on field theory (both classical and quantum). I understand it well, although my background in calculus is not great (I have self-tought myself a lot and I pick up on topics easily, though advanced calculus is hard for me to pick up on). I am planning on doing this next year, and I need some more topics for someone at my level. Also, I will need to include astronomy and chemistry in it as 8th grade science includes those topics, so cosmology and advanced chemistry topics would be great too!

Thanks!
 
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How can you understand field theory well if you're having troubles with advanced calculus?
 
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Isaac0427 said:
I am currently working on an independent project on field theory (both classical and quantum).

Isaac0427 said:
I am planning on doing this next year
I am confused. Which is it?
 
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It is great that you have a strong interest in physics! At this point in your life, as the previous posters have noted, it is not reasonable to begin studying thing like field theories; you don't know the prerequisites. However, one thing you can do that will help you understand physics later is studying mathematics. There are many opportunities for high school students to demonstrate their abilities, such as challenging competitions that require significant study beyond a standard high school curriculum. There are many resources listed on this forum that can help you choose what things you should study.

To more specifically answer your question, what type of project is this? Is it for school (like a science fair) or independent?
 
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I've got to agree with the previous posts...it would be incredibly difficult to have a good understanding of field theory without even having a solid background in calculus.

That being said, I can admire your enthusiasm. It's quite possible that you're simply approaching a topic that is way beyond what you've learned at this point. Field theory isn't even typically covered in an undergraduate physics degree. It is usually given its first treatment in graduate school. You might want to find a project that is more within the scope of your mathematical limitations. The bright side here is that there are TONS of awesome independent research projects that one can do in physics without having any mathematical knowledge beyond algebra, trigonometry, and very basic differential and integral calculus.
 
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To more specifically answer your question, what type of project is this? Is it for school (like a science fair) or independent?
It is an independent project (I am making a website on it).
 
My apologies guys, I don't think I am explaining this project correctly. I have first done a section explaining what field theory even is. I explained vectors, scalars, spinors, and tensors (I don't completely understand tensors, but my friends mom is a physicist and she is explaining them better to me). Then I had 6 sections on different fields and studies within field theory. I completely understand that this is not the full spectrum of field theory, or even a big part of it.
I included Newtonian gravitation, in which I explained all the equations, as well as most of the math for electromagnetism (the E and B fields).
The rest was not math-based, I just explained the main ideas of general relativity, QED, QCD (mainly color charges), and spin, specifically spin 1/2. I'm looking to possibly go a little deeper, but I don't know where to start.
 

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