Calculating Induced EMF in a Changing Magnetic Field

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The problem involves calculating the average induced electromotive force (EMF) in a wire coil subjected to a changing magnetic field. The coil's initial and final magnetic field strengths are given, along with the time duration for the change.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the formula for induced EMF and the calculation of magnetic flux. There is a focus on the directionality of the magnetic fields and the implications of treating magnetic flux as a vector quantity. Some participants express uncertainty about how to proceed with the calculations given the lack of angle information.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering suggestions and clarifications regarding the treatment of magnetic flux and the signs associated with the magnetic fields. There is recognition of errors in initial calculations, and some participants have arrived at a corrected value for the induced EMF.

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There is a mention of potential confusion regarding the treatment of magnetic flux as a vector and the need to consider the signs of the magnetic fields. The problem constraints include the absence of angle information, which participants are navigating in their discussions.

Moxin
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Ok, so here's the problem:

Induced EMF
A 5.80 cm diameter wire coil is initially oriented so that its plane is perpendicular to a magnetic field of 0.770 T pointing up. During the course of 0.140 s, the field is changed to one of 0.240 T pointing down. What is the average induced emf in the coil?

and here's how i tackled it:

E=-N(change in magnetic flux/change in time)

change in magnetic flux = B2A - B1A = A(B2-B1) = 0.058^2pi(.770 - 0.140)
change in time = 0.140 s

N = 1

So I get..

E= 0.0100 V

Apparently that's wrong. Any suggestions ?
 
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Originally posted by Moxin
... a magnetic field of 0.770 T pointing up.
...
... the field is changed to one of 0.240 T pointing down.
...
... change in magnetic flux = ... 0.058^2pi(.770 - 0.140)
The flux is a vector quantity. Check the B-fields in your equation again.




Originally posted by Moxin
Any suggestions ?
Draw a picture.
 
i thought because they were both perpendicular, jus pointing different directions, it wouldn't matter.. guess i was wrong.. I'm really not sure exactly how to proceed now that i know the flux is a vector quantity since angles aren't given..
 
Originally posted by Moxin
i'm really not sure exactly how to proceed now that i know the flux is a vector quantity since angles aren't given..
You can pretty much just assume that the initial and final vectors are 180 degrees apart. Other than that, don't worry about angles. I sorry for saying "vector," as it probably made you start thinking about oblique directions, sines and cosines and whatnot. That isn't what I wanted to point out. I was trying to draw your attention to the negative sign that you're missing. The flux is a magnitude and sign (which is a 1-D vector). So, pick a sign for up, assign the opposite sign to down, and put the values into the formula accordingly. Your procedure is basically correct; it's the details that are killing you.

Oh what the hell, here's what I get:

0.0191 V ccw

I just noticed something else in your first post. You squared the diameter, but you should square the radius of the loop.
 
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I was going to rush in here to say Nevermind I figured it out but lol I guess I'm too late, and yeh I finally ended up with 0.0191 as well after figuring out I had to add the fields..Thanks anyways mann
 

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