Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around the inequality of determinants related to a real symmetric matrix, specifically addressing the condition when ##M + M^T## is positive definite. Participants explore various mathematical approaches, including Cholesky decomposition and eigenvalue decomposition, to demonstrate the inequality $$\det\left(\frac{M + M^T}{2}\right) \le \det M$$.
Discussion Character
- Technical explanation
- Mathematical reasoning
- Debate/contested
Main Points Raised
- Some participants propose using Cholesky decomposition to show the relationship between the determinants, but express uncertainty about the induction step and the validity of certain assumptions.
- Others argue that the connection between the diagonal elements of the Cholesky factor and the original matrix is not clear, questioning the relevance of the decomposition to the problem at hand.
- A participant suggests an alternative approach using eigenvalue decomposition, indicating that a real symmetric positive definite matrix can be diagonalized, and discusses the implications for the determinants.
- Another participant mentions the existence of a specific decomposition related to positive definiteness but seeks references for further reading.
- There are repeated references to the diagonalization of matrices and the implications of eigenvalues on the determinant, with some participants confirming the possibility of diagonalization for real symmetric matrices.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express differing views on the appropriateness and effectiveness of the Cholesky decomposition versus eigenvalue decomposition. There is no consensus on the best approach or the validity of certain steps in the proofs presented.
Contextual Notes
Some participants highlight limitations in the assumptions made during the discussions, particularly regarding the induction steps and the properties of the matrices involved. The discussion remains open-ended with unresolved mathematical details.