Inequality with fractions solve 2/(x^2−1)≤1/(x+1)

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The discussion revolves around solving the inequality \(\frac{2}{x^{2}-1}\leq \frac{1}{x+1}\). Participants explore various methods to approach the problem, including manipulating the inequality and considering the signs of expressions involved. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and problem-solving techniques related to inequalities and rational expressions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant attempts to solve the inequality by multiplying both sides by \((x^{2}-1)^{2}\) but expresses confusion over the correct answer.
  • Another participant suggests starting with the equality \(\frac{2}{x^{2}-1} = \frac{1}{x+1}\) to find critical points, noting \(x = 3\) and \(x = -1\).
  • A participant emphasizes the importance of considering the sign of expressions when manipulating inequalities and proposes moving all terms to one side.
  • Concerns are raised about multiplying by expressions that could change sign, particularly \((x^{2}-1)\), which is negative in the interval \((-1,1)\).
  • Participants discuss critical values \(-1\), \(1\), and \(3\) and how these divide the number line into intervals for testing the sign of the expression.
  • One participant outlines the intervals based on critical values and suggests testing the sign in one of the intervals to determine parts of the solution.
  • Another approach is proposed involving case analysis based on the sign of \((x^{2}-1)\) and the implications for the inequality.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the best approach to solve the inequality, with no consensus reached on a single method or solution. Multiple competing views and methods remain present throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of understanding the signs of expressions when manipulating inequalities, and there are unresolved discussions regarding the implications of multiplying by potentially negative expressions.

Yankel
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Dear all,

I am trying to solve this inequality:

\[\frac{2}{x^{2}-1}\leq \frac{1}{x+1}\]

I've tried several things, from multiplying both sides by

\[(x^{2}-1)^{2}\]

finding the common denominator, but didn't get the correct answer, which is:

\[2<x<3\]

or

\[x<-1\]How to you solve this one ?
 
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Solve 2/(x^2-1) = 1/(x+1)

Solution: x = 3 or x = -1

Now throw the < in there!
 
Yankel said:
Dear all,

I am trying to solve this inequality:

\[\frac{2}{x^{2}-1}\leq \frac{1}{x+1}\]

I've tried several things, from multiplying both sides by

\[(x^{2}-1)^{2}\]

finding the common denominator, but didn't get the correct answer, which is:

\[2<x<3\]

or

\[x<-1\]How to you solve this one ?

You don't want to multiply an equality by any expression involving a variable, because you don't know the sign, and it is important to know the sign of a value when multiplying with an inequality. What I would do is move everything to one side, so you have zero on the other:

$$\frac{2}{x^2-1}-\frac{1}{x+1}\le0$$

Now, combine terms on the LHS:

$$\frac{2-(x-1)}{x^2-1}\le0$$

$$\frac{3-x}{(x+1)(x-1)}\le0$$

Can you proceed from here?
 
MarkFL,

I tried your way but got stuck exactly where you stopped.

I tried multiplying each side by

\[(x^{2}-1)^{2}\]

which is always positive or zero, can't be negative so I don't have to worry about the sign. Then I got expression with fifth power, couldn't go on.
 
Yankel said:
MarkFL,

I tried your way but got stuck exactly where you stopped.

I tried multiplying each side by

\[(x^{2}-1)^{2}\]

which is always positive or zero, can't be negative so I don't have to worry about the sign. Then I got expression with fifth power, couldn't go on.

$$x^2-1$$ is negative on \((-1,1)\), so you do need to worry about the sign. Let's go back to:

$$\frac{3-x}{(x+1)(x-1)}\le0$$

From this, we obtain 3 critical values (places where the expression may change sign)

$$x\in\{-1,1,3\}$$

These 3 critical values divide the real number line into 4 intervals...can you state these intervals?
 
MarkFL said:
$$x^2-1$$ is negative on \((-1,1)\), so you do need to worry about the sign.
Yes, but Yankel is multiplying by $\color{red}(\color{black}x^2-1\color{red})^2$.
 
Olinguito said:
Yes, but Yankel is multiplying by $\color{red}(\color{black}x^2-1\color{red})^2$.


Okay I did miss that, but that still leads to the same critical values and is a needless move.
 
$$\frac{3-x}{(x+1)(x-1)}\le0$$

By inspection of Mark's sexy equation:
x<>1 and x<>-1 (division by 0)

equality occurs only when x=3

0 is greater only if x>3
 
Wilmer said:
$$\frac{3-x}{(x+1)(x-1)}\le0$$

By inspection of Mark's sexy equation:
x<>1 and x<>-1 (division by 0)

equality occurs only when x=3

0 is greater only if x>3

What I would do is divide the real number line into the following intervals (based on the critical values, the strength of the inequality and division by zero):

$$(-\infty,-1)$$

$$(-1,1)$$

$$(1,3)$$

$$[3,\infty)$$

Then, since all critical values are of odd multiplicity, I would observe that the sign of the expression will alternate across all intervals, so I only need test one interval, and I would choose the one containing \(x=0\), and we see the sign of the expression is negative, and so we conclude:

$$(-\infty,-1)$$ + not part of the solution

$$(-1,1)$$ - part of the solution

$$(1,3)$$ + not part of the solution

$$[3,\infty)$$ - part of the solution

And so the solution to the original inequality is:

$$(-1,1)\,\cup\,[3,\infty)$$
 
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Alternatively, we can multiply both sides with $(x^2-1)$ and take cases:
$$\begin{array}{ccccccc}&&&\frac 2{x^2-1} \le \frac 1{x+1}\\
(x^2-1 > 0) &\land& (2 \le \frac{x^2-1}{x+1}) &\lor& (x^2-1 < 0) &\land& (2 \ge \frac{x^2-1}{x+1}) \\
(x^2 > 1) &\land& (2 \le x-1) &\lor& (x^2 < 1) &\land& (2 \ge x-1) \\
(x^2 > 1) &\land& (x \ge 3) &\lor& (x^2 < 1) &\land& (x\le 3) \\
&&(x \ge 3) &\lor&(-1<x<1)
\end{array}$$
 

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