Inertia: blocks attached to rod of negligible mass

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The problem involves calculating the moment of inertia (I) for small blocks of mass m that are clamped at the ends and center of a rod of negligible mass, with a total length L. The original poster seeks to derive a formula for I based on this setup.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of moment of inertia, with one participant attempting to derive the formula and another questioning the assumptions regarding the measurement point and the mass distribution.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes attempts to clarify the calculation and assumptions involved in determining the moment of inertia. Some participants express uncertainty about the correctness of their calculations and the implications of their assumptions, while others provide informal feedback and tips for avoiding errors.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential confusion regarding the units of moment of inertia and the specific point about which the inertia is being measured. There is also mention of a misunderstanding related to the mass at the center of the rod.

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Homework Statement


Small blocks, each with mass m, are clamped at the ends and at the center of a rod of length L and negligible mass.
Find the formula for I


Homework Equations


I=MR^2


The Attempt at a Solution



I=m(0.5 L)^2 + m(0.5 L)^2
I=2(0.5L)^2 m
I=0.5L^2 m

am i right?
 
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Hi cantgetno! :smile:
cantgetno said:
Small blocks, each with mass m, are clamped at the ends and at the center of a rod of length L and negligible mass.
Find the formula for I

I=m(0.5 L)^2 + m(0.5 L)^2
I=2(0.5L)^2 m
I=0.5L^2 m

am i right?

mmm …

i] moment of inertia isn't measured in metres

ii] about which point is I being measured?

iii] what about the mass in the middle? :wink:
 


oh its around the middle
so that makes the mass in the middle mass x 0

metres? m=mass
 
cantgetno said:
oh its around the middle
so that makes the mass in the middle mass x 0

metres? m=mass

D'oh! m is mass … should have spotted that! :redface:

In that case, everything is fine. :biggrin:
 


oh crap
i put 1/2 l m^2 ... I am an idiot

thanks anyway
 
cantgetno said:
oh crap
i put 1/2 l m^2 ... I am an idiot

hee hee :biggrin:

Useful tip: keep your m's in the same place :wink:

for some reason, you shifted them from the left to the right …
I=m(0.5 L)^2 + m(0.5 L)^2
I=2(0.5L)^2 m
… which makes it much easier to make a mistake, and much less easy to spot a mistake. :cry:
 

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