Inertial load model penetration

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around issues related to model penetration in a Finite Element Analysis (FEA) context, specifically when applying inertial loads to a model with bonded contacts. Participants explore potential causes and solutions for the penetration of heavy parts into softer components within the simulation.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about parts penetrating into each other under inertial load and seeks advice on preventing this issue.
  • Another participant admits to a lack of experience with contact analysis and suggests a tutorial for beginners using ANSYS.
  • A different participant shares their own challenges with similar issues and proposes uniting parts in UG before importing them as a single entity to potentially avoid penetration problems.
  • One participant speculates that improper definition of contact conditions may be causing the observed penetrations and suggests reviewing the display settings in ANSYS Workbench, which might exaggerate the appearance of deformations.
  • Another participant mentions the possibility of controlling penetration between nodes or surfaces in ANSYS and indicates they will investigate this further.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the cause of the penetration issue, with multiple competing views and suggestions for potential solutions being presented.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about contact conditions and the potential effects of display settings on perceived deformations. The discussion does not resolve these aspects.

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Hi,
I have an FEA model where all my parts are bonded contacts (no contact surfaces). I am trying to fix one end of this model and apply inertial load on the other.
However the heavy parts are penetrating into the soft ones. How do I avoid this model penetration?

Thanks,
 
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I have problems with it too; if you find the answer, let me know. Typically if the parts are bonded, then i just unite them in UG, then import them as one single parasolid.

I figure the bonded contact can't be too (hoepfully) different than the element itself.
 
spider80 said:
Hi,
I have an FEA model where all my parts are bonded contacts (no contact surfaces). I am trying to fix one end of this model and apply inertial load on the other.
However the heavy parts are penetrating into the soft ones. How do I avoid this model penetration?

Thanks,


It sounds to me like the contact conditions aren't defined properly, or the penetrations aren't "real." Sometimes when you are displaying displacements using ANSYS Workbench, it will automatically scale the displacements being displayed so it's easy to see what's going on; however, this can make things look artificially deformed, especially when the diplacements are scaled up by a factor of 1000 or more.

I would like to see a screenshot of your geometry and where the penetrations is occurring, I suspect it can be solved by re-defining the contact conditions and taking a good look at your loading and boundary conditions.
 
I do believe in ANSYS you can control the amount of penetration between nodes and or surfaces. I will check on that.
 

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