Infinitely Presented, Finitely Generated Group

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The discussion centers on the existence of groups that are finitely generated but cannot be presented with finitely many relations. A specific example mentioned is a group referenced in the paper "A finitely generated, infinitely related group with trivial multiplicator." The participants confirm that such groups do exist and inquire about their characteristics, emphasizing the interest in identifying "nice" groups within this category. The conversation highlights the complexity and intriguing nature of finitely generated groups with infinite relations.

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  • Understanding of group theory concepts, specifically finitely generated groups.
  • Familiarity with group presentations and relations.
  • Knowledge of the concept of trivial multiplicators in group theory.
  • Ability to interpret mathematical papers, particularly in abstract algebra.
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  • Read the paper "A finitely generated, infinitely related group with trivial multiplicator."
  • Explore examples of finitely generated groups in abstract algebra.
  • Study the implications of infinite relations in group presentations.
  • Investigate the properties of "nice" groups in the context of group theory.
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This discussion is beneficial for mathematicians, particularly those specializing in group theory, algebraists, and students seeking to deepen their understanding of finitely generated groups and their presentations.

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What's an example of a group that has finitely many generators, but cannot be presented using only finitely many relations? Are there any nice groups? They do exist, right?
 
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markiv said:
What's an example of a group that has finitely many generators, but cannot be presented using only finitely many relations? Are there any nice groups? They do exist, right?


http://caissny.org/pdfs/A%20finitely%20generated,%20infinitely%20related%20group%20with%20trival%20multiplicator.PDF

I cannot say how nice this group is, but it doesn't look that evil.

DonAntonio
 
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