Inflation of singularity at moment of evaporation?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of singularities in black holes, particularly focusing on their evaporation and potential implications for the formation of new dimensions or universes. Participants explore various theories, including loop quantum gravity (LQG) and torsion-based models, while addressing the complexities and unresolved issues surrounding singularities.

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  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the evaporation of a singularity could lead to instability and the inflation into a new dimension or universe, drawing an analogy to water vortices.
  • Another participant claims that the singularity problem is largely resolved by loop quantum gravity (LQG), though they find the solution unattractive.
  • A participant questions how LQG addresses the singularity problem, expressing skepticism about its effectiveness.
  • Another participant argues that they have not found a concrete solution to the singularity issue and proposes that a singularity could inflate into its own dimension.
  • A link is provided to a model by Nikodem Poplawski, which posits a universe inside every black hole, although the participant does not agree with this model and notes its limitations regarding structure formation and cosmic microwave background measurements.
  • Some participants mention that there are singularity-free approaches in LQG, referencing specific research.
  • A participant speculates that the spin of a singularity might exceed its gravitational attraction, leading to evaporation, particularly in mini black holes.
  • Another participant counters that an event horizon cannot spin fast enough to overcome the gravity of its singularity, but it can become a Kerr-Newman black hole.
  • There is a question about the role of Hawking Radiation in the evaporation of mini black holes and how a Kerr-Newman black hole might influence this process.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effectiveness of loop quantum gravity in resolving singularity issues, with some skepticism about its solutions. There is no consensus on the implications of singularity evaporation or the validity of the proposed models.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in existing models, such as the inability to explain certain cosmological observations and the unresolved nature of singularity behavior in various theoretical frameworks.

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I have had an idea kicking around in my head for some time now. It all started last summer when I was kayaking down a river and I had stopped in an eddy to relax for a moment. The rate of flow of the water was strong enough to make sizable vortices along the eddy fence around the boulder that was creating the eddy in which I was resting. These vortices reminded me of the similar way in which spacetime is curved into a singularity. Long story short; black holes have been on my mind for almost a year now. I have progressed my understanding through the formation and into the evaporation of the singularity. The fact that some matter/information is lost during the evaporation perplexes me. This does not make sense to me. My suspicion is that when the mass of the singularity reaches a point in which it no longer exceeds the Tolman-Oppenheimer-Volkoff limit the singularity becomes unstable and the remaining mass, which would have been converted to energy by the force of infinite gravity, inflates into a new dimension/universe. This is just an idea of mine. Any input and discussion would be appreciated.
 
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The singularity problem is largely resolved by LQG. Not that it is a particular attractive, solution, but, a good starting point. The extra dimensions thing appears to be unnecessary background noise, IMO.
 
Chronos, how does LQG solve the singularity problem?
 
I do not feel that LQG correctly solves for a singularity. I have not been able to find a concrete solution that could anyway. I would like to see how it does. As far as I can tell, through quantum mechanics, it could be possible for a singularity to inflate into its own dimension. Please correct me if I am wrong.
 
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikodem_Popławski

The link above is in regards to the Poplawski. He is a cosmologist that wrote a torsion based model of a universe inside every black hole. Although I personally do not agree with his model it may interest you.

His model has two problems I have read counter papers about.
1) it does not explain early large structure formation.
2) Does not explain the CMB homogeneous and isotropic measurements.
 
There are a number of approaches in LQG that are singularity free - e.g.,
A no-singularity scenario in loop quantum gravity, http://arxiv.org/abs/1206.5765
 
Mordred- I have seen his stuff before and I do not agree with his work either. Thank you for your reply, however.

Chronos- Thank you for the link. It looks most interesting.
 
Perhaps the spin of a singularity can exceed its gravimetric attraction (at the edge of rotation) making the singularity 'evaporate'? - mini black holes
 
Actually, an event horizon cannot spin fast enough to overcome the gravity of its singularity. It can, however, flatten out to become a Kerr-Newman black hole.
 
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Then its Hawking Radiation?

So supposely Hawking Radiation is responsible for the evaporation in mini-blackhole.?
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How would a Kerr-Newman black hole affect this?
 

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