Inhomogeneous wave equation: RHS orthogonal to homogeneous solutions

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The discussion centers around the inhomogeneous wave equation as presented in Brillouin's 'Wave Propagation in Periodic Media', specifically the condition that the right-hand side (RHS) must be orthogonal to the solutions of the corresponding homogeneous equation. Participants explore the implications of this condition and its relation to the properties of the wave operator.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that Brillouin states the RHS must be orthogonal to all solutions of the homogeneous equation, questioning why this is the case.
  • Another participant argues that the requirement is due to the self-adjoint nature of the wave operator, explaining that if the operator were not self-adjoint, the RHS would need to be orthogonal to solutions of the homogeneous adjoint equation.
  • The second participant provides a mathematical justification involving inner products and adjoint operators to illustrate the necessity of the orthogonality condition.
  • A later reply expresses gratitude for the clarification provided, indicating that the explanation was helpful.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the self-adjoint property of the wave operator being relevant to the orthogonality condition, but the initial participant's confusion about the property not being commonly found in PDE textbooks suggests some uncertainty remains regarding its broader applicability.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the initial participant's query about the absence of this property in their PDE textbooks, nor does it clarify the implications of the self-adjoint property in different contexts.

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This discussion may be useful for those studying wave equations, self-adjoint operators, or exploring advanced topics in partial differential equations, particularly in the context of wave propagation in periodic media.

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Brillouin states that an inhomogeneous hyperbolic PDE has a finite solution only if the RHS is orthogonal to the homogenous solutions
Hi, I've been reading Brillouin's 'Wave Propagation in Periodic Media'.

About the following equation
$$\nabla^2u_1+\frac{\omega^2_0}{V_0}u_1 = R(r)$$
Brillouin states that "it is well known that such an equation possesses a finite solution only if the right-hand term is orthogonal to all solutions of the homogeneous equation:"
$$\iint_{\text{all space}} u_1^*R(r) dr = 0$$

This is not a property of hyperbolic PDEs I've come across before. I wasn't able to find anything in my PDE textbooks. Would anyone be able to suggest why this is the case? I would be very appreciative.
 
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It has nothing to do with the class of PDEs; it is true because the wave operator is self-adjoint. If it weren't, then the right-hand term needs to be orthogonal to solutions of the homogeneous adjoint equation. To show it is necessary, assume ##L x = a## has a solution, where the operator ##L## has adjoint ##L^\dagger##, and let ##z## be any solution of ##L^\dagger z = 0##. Then we have
$$
0 = \left\langle x, L^\dagger z \right\rangle = \left\langle L x, z \right\rangle = \left\langle a, z \right\rangle
$$
where ##\left\langle a, z \right\rangle## indicates the inner product of ##a## and ##z##.

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Thanks a lot! This is a big help.
 
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You are welcome. Also, welcome to Physics Forums! I didn't notice that was your first post.

I hope you enjoy Brillouin's book. I have looked at it on a number of occasions and it looks pretty interesting and has lots of pretty pictures of Brillouin zones! But I have never taken the time to work through it.

Jason
 
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