Integrals Explained: What Does t and dt Mean?

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The discussion revolves around the meaning of the variables t and dt in the context of integrals, exploring their roles and relationships within integral expressions. Participants examine the notation and implications of integrating with respect to different variables, as well as the conceptual foundations of integrals.

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  • One participant asks about the meaning of t and dt in the integral expression, suggesting a need for clarification on their relationship.
  • Another participant explains the integral in terms of Riemann sums, describing how the integral represents the limit of the sum of areas of rectangles under a curve, with t and x as independent variables.
  • A participant questions the purpose of dx, suggesting it might represent the derivative of x, and expresses confusion about whether x is a constant during integration.
  • Another participant clarifies that dx is merely a notation indicating the variable of integration, without implying any derivative relationship.
  • One participant seeks further understanding by asking for an integration example involving the function f = (t + x) and how x is treated in the integration process.
  • A later reply provides specific integrals, showing how t is treated as a constant when integrating with respect to x and vice versa.
  • One participant expresses satisfaction with the explanation received.
  • Another participant mentions having written notes on integration that may provide additional context or information.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the notation and roles of t and dt in integrals, but there is some uncertainty regarding the interpretation of dx and its implications. The discussion does not reach a consensus on all points, particularly regarding the conceptual understanding of constants and variables in integration.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the nature of constants and variables during integration remain unresolved, particularly in relation to the treatment of x and t in different contexts.

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I've this example of an integral.

\int^{x}_{a} f(t)dt

What t and dt means? Is there a relation between t and dt?
 
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Since you are talking about an integral I assume you have some idea of what an integral is, either taking a course in Calculus or are reading a book on Calculus.

Every textbook I have seen introduces the integral in terms of the Riemann sum in which you divide an area under the graph of y=f(x) into very thin rectangles- each having base \Delta x and height f(x_i^*) for x_i^* being some x value within the base of the ith rectangle. The approximate area would be the sum of the areas of those rectangles: \sum f(x_i^*)\Delta x. One can show that the exact area is the limit of that as the base of those rectangles goes to 0. Then in the form \int f(x)dx or \int f(t)dt x and t are the independent variables in the functions f(x) and f(t), the limits of f(x_i^*) and f(t_i^*), and dx and dt are "infinitesmal" sections of the axis.
 
So what's the purpose of having dx in the expression? If I'm correct, dx means the derivative of x. And, in each point of x in the interval \Delta x, x will be a fixed value (is it a constant?), and the derivative of a constant is always 0.
 
The "dx" is just a notation. It doesn't mean anything. It's just used to denote which variable we integrate.

For example

\int_0^1 (t+x)dx

means that we integrate with respect to x. While

\int_0^1 (t+x)dt

means that we integrate with respect to t.
 
As far as I understand, in the first case we will only integrate x, and in the second case, t.

So, being f a function, f=(t+x)

In the first case, what happens to x? Can you integrate this example, please?
 
With the integral

\int (t+x)dx

we have that t is a constant and x is the integration variable, so

\int (t+x)dx = tx+\frac{x^2}{2}+C

While in

\int (t+x)dt

we treat x as a constant. Thus

\int (t+x)dx = \frac{t^2}{2}+tx+C
 
Thanks, now I got it.
 
I wrote some notes on integration, they should be available on the Math & Science Learning Materials section under notes on integration.
 

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