Intent on getting pure math PHD, start plan B now?

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The discussion centers on the career planning of a prospective PhD student in pure mathematics, who is considering alternative career paths due to bleak academic prospects. The two primary options identified are becoming a software engineer or a financial mathematician, with a preference for the latter due to its intersection with advanced mathematical topics such as measure-theoretic probability and Fourier analysis. Participants emphasize the importance of acquiring programming skills alongside mathematical expertise, suggesting that early preparation in programming is beneficial while pursuing a PhD.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of measure-theoretic probability
  • Familiarity with Fourier analysis
  • Basic programming skills in languages such as Mathematica or Maple
  • Knowledge of financial mathematics concepts
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  • Learn advanced programming techniques in Mathematica and Maple
  • Study financial mathematics and its applications in industry
  • Explore the intersection of pure mathematics and finance
  • Research career opportunities in mathematical finance and software engineering
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Prospective PhD students in mathematics, individuals considering careers in financial mathematics or software engineering, and anyone interested in the application of advanced mathematical concepts in industry.

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Basically what I mean by my title is that I am intent on getting a PHD in pure math because I love the subject, and am still young enough to do it without throwing the rest of my life into disarray. But beyond that I need to have a plan. Plan A is clearly to go on to do several post-docs followed by a tenure track position as a research mathematician. However, it has been made abundantly clear to me that the prospects in academia are quite bleak, hence I need a plan B.

The two career options I hear over and over again for math phd's are software engineer or financial mathematician. Of these two I think I would prefer being a financial mathematician, as, in contrast to software engineering, it seems to intersect non-trivially with some advanced topics in math, specifically measure-theoretic probability and real/fourier analysis ( please correct me if I am misinformed in regard to this assumption ). Plus I find economics and finance interesting subjects in their own right, although of course not hardly as interesting as I find pure mathematics.

My question is: should I start preparing now? I will probably be applying to PHD programs either next fall or the fall after that, depending on how many graduate courses I want to take before I apply, so should I just buckle down on the pure math for now and worry about preparing for plan B maybe as I'm finishing up my PHD? Or, should I begin studying finance and applied math, and learning to program, now?
 
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It never hurts to prepare early. The programming is a good idea to learn
 
Poopsilon said:
The two career options I hear over and over again for math phd's are software engineer or financial mathematician. Of these two I think I would prefer being a financial mathematician, as, in contrast to software engineering, it seems to intersect non-trivially with some advanced topics in math, specifically measure-theoretic probability and real/fourier analysis

Most people working in mathematical finance have to have both computer skills and mathematical skills. Measure-theoretic probability and Fourier analysis are heavily used in finance, but in most situations you are applying them to input data, which means that there are non-trivial software engineering issues.

Also the really, really valuable skills require deep knowledge of both math and software engineering. It's the difference between being able to program in Mathematica and/or Maple and being able to program Mathematica and/or Maple from scratch.

So should I just buckle down on the pure math for now and worry about preparing for plan B maybe as I'm finishing up my PHD? Or, should I begin studying finance and applied math, and learning to program, now?

It won't hurt to start learning to program now.

Also, getting a job in industry is plan A. Getting a tenure-track position is if you win the lottery and that's plan B.
 
Also, getting a job in industry is plan A. Getting a tenure-track position is if you win the lottery and that's plan B.

lol, fair enough, so what you're saying is that the finance can probably wait as what is really important is that I'm a programming god by the time I start interviewing for positions?
 

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