Interaction between electron & neutron

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The discussion centers on the interactions between electrons and neutrons, particularly in the context of dense environments like neutron stars. It explores various types of interactions, including electromagnetic, weak, and gravitational forces, as well as the implications of these interactions at different energy levels.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that since neutrons are charge neutral and electrons do not engage in the strong nuclear force, electrons might pass through neutrons without interaction in dense environments like neutron stars.
  • Others argue that neutrons, being composite particles made of charged quarks, can still interact electromagnetically with electrons, and that weak interactions may also occur.
  • A participant questions the notion of electromagnetic interaction, suggesting that the charge of quarks is neutralized and asking how electrons interact with neutrons at this level.
  • Gravity is mentioned as a factor that influences the interaction between electrons and neutrons, especially in the context of a massive neutron star.
  • Some participants clarify that a neutron's charge neutrality does not prevent interactions with electrons, as both are made up of charged constituents.
  • It is noted that neutrons have a nonzero magnetic moment, allowing them to interact with magnetic fields.
  • Discussion includes the concept of spin and its role in interactions, with some participants asserting that spin alone does not guarantee interaction.
  • At high energies, electrons can resolve the components of neutrons, leading to different types of interactions as energy levels increase.
  • Some participants discuss the distribution of charge within a neutron, noting that while it is overall neutral, there are measurable differences in charge distribution internally.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the nature and extent of interactions between electrons and neutrons, with no consensus reached on the specifics of these interactions.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in understanding interactions at different energy levels and the complexities involved in the charge distribution within neutrons, which may affect how interactions are perceived.

Denton
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Since a neutron has no charge and an electron is not involved in the strong nuclear force, does this mean that an electron has no interaction between a neutron? As in a very dense neutron star, would we expect that electrons could easily pass right though without being absorbed/deflected in any way?
 
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Neutrons are composite particles made up of quarks which are charged, so the electromagnetic interaction is not out of the picture. Also, electrons and quarks can interact via the weak interaction.
 
Yes but since the charge of each quark has become neutralised why would one expect there be any electromagnetic interaction even when the electron 'enters' the neutron? Also with the weak reaction, i thought those only happened when some sort of nuclear reaction took place, how does an electron interact with a neutron on this level?
 
Both neutrons and electrons have mass so gravity will have an influence between the particles at the very least. Gravity is normally very weak compared to the electrostatic force, but if you had a very dense (massive) neutron star it seems reasonable that the gravitiational attraction between such a star and an electron can be quite large...
 
Denton said:
Yes but since the charge of each quark has become neutralised why would one expect there be any electromagnetic interaction even when the electron 'enters' the neutron?
How has it become "neutralised"?

A neutron is a composite particle that is charge neutral, sort of in the same way that you are also a charge neutral object (made up of charged particles). But that doesn't mean an electron fired at you will not interact with your constituent (charged) particles.

PS: Incidentally, you share your username with the manufacturer of electron beam equipment.
 
Note that the neutron has a nonzero magnetic moment, so it can interact with a magnetic field.
 
jtbell said:
Note that the neutron has a nonzero magnetic moment, so it can interact with a magnetic field.

It also has a spin, so they can couple to each other that way, too.
 
BenTheMan said:
It also has a spin, so they can couple to each other that way, too.

That's not enough. A neutrino and photon both have spin, but they do not interact with each other.

JTBell is correct - the electron has a magnetic interaction with the neutron. He's also right that an electron can interact electrically with the quarks inside a neutron, although this is the scale at which the concept of a neutron behaving as a simple particle breaks down.
 
How has it become "neutralised"?

A neutron is a composite particle that is charge neutral, sort of in the same way that you are also a charge neutral object (made up of charged particles). But that doesn't mean an electron fired at you will not interact with your constituent (charged) particles.

Ive always expected this because a neutron does not have a slightly positive side or a slightly negative side as one would expect something being made of dissimilar charged components.
 
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At high energies, the electron can "resolve" the components of the neutron (i.e. the quarks)
 
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Denton said:
Ive always expected this because a neutron does not have a slightly positive side or a slightly negative side as one would expect something being made of dissimilar charged components.
It does. There is a non-trivial distribution of charge, not from left to right (unless you break left-right symmetry, by polarization or something), but from inside to outside.
 
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To build on that a bit: if a neutron had a positive side and a negative side, this would be called it's electric dipole moment. This has been measured to be zero to exquisite precision - it's one of the best known numbers in subatomic physics. However, the inside of a neutron is measurably more positive than the outside.

Now we can ask ourselves what would happen if we scattered a variable energy beam of electrons at a pile of neutrons. First, at very low energies, they would interact magnetically with the whole neutron. As the energy increases, they would start to interact electrically with the negative halo and the positive core. As the energy increases further, they would start to interact with the constituent quarks (the quarks and, in a sense, their "nearby" gluons) and finally at the very highest energies they would interact with the bare current quarks.
 
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Thanks for that :)
 

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