Interest percentage from selling price or cost price

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of interest percentage based on selling price versus cost price. Participants explore how to derive interest rates from given values and the implications of using different reference points for these calculations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a problem involving a selling price of 212.5 and an interest of 12.5, leading to confusion about the correct interest percentage calculation.
  • Another participant suggests that to find the cost price, one must remove the interest from the selling price, indicating a method for calculating interest based on cost price.
  • Some participants argue that interest should always be calculated from the cost price rather than the selling price, raising questions about the validity of using the selling price for such calculations.
  • There is a repeated inquiry about why the selling price is represented as both 212.5 and 100 in the calculations, indicating a lack of clarity in the presented method.
  • One participant explains that converting the interest to a percentage involves using the selling price as a reference, but others challenge this approach.
  • Several participants discuss the convention of calculating interest based on the initial amount (cost price) rather than the final amount (selling price), emphasizing the importance of clarity in financial agreements.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the appropriate basis for calculating interest, with some advocating for the cost price and others questioning the validity of this convention. The discussion remains unresolved as multiple perspectives are presented without consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the potential confusion arising from using different reference points for interest calculations and the implications of these choices in practical scenarios.

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(c.p= cost price, s.p= selling price)

I was doing a problem and I got its interest rate wrong.

problem: An item when sold at 212.5, interest got is 12.5 . So what is the interest percentage?

My solution:
s.p=212.5 , interest=12.5
s.p=100 , interest= 12.5/212.5 *100 = 5.88%

Book solution:
c.p=212.5 - 12.5 = 200

c.p=200 , interest= 12.5
c.p=100 , interest= 12.5/200 * 100 = 6.25% What is it on percentage, that my understanding is wrong.
 
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Work this backwards. Say you were to sell the item at $200 but there is a 6.25% interest rate of that cost which is $12.50, so you then need to sell it with this interest price included, so $212.50. This makes sense, right? You get the customer to pay that extra tax, so you include it on top of the cost price. Hence to figure it out, you need to remove the interest from the sell price to get the cost price, then figure out what the interest is based on that cost price.
 
Mentallic said:
Hence to figure it out, you need to remove the interest from the sell price to get the cost price, then figure out what the interest is based on that cost price.
i.e to say, to calculate interest, we always take interest from the cost price and cannot be interest achieved from selling price i.e we cannot calculate interest, considering the product sold at 100$.
 
One thing I don't understand is the following:

rajeshmarndi said:
My solution:
s.p=212.5 , interest=12.5
s.p=100 , interest= 12.5/212.5 *100 = 5.88%
What is that part in red? Why is the sell price both 212.5 and 100? That makes no sense. You've done it 3 times now.

Anyway, you most definitely can calculate the interest, as the book had done.
 
Mentallic said:
One thing I don't understand is the following:
What is that part in red? Why is the sell price both 212.5 and 100? That makes no sense. You've done it 3 times now.

When the sell price is 212.5, interest is 12.5 . So when sell price is 100, interest = 12.5/212.5 * 100.
 
rajeshmarndi said:
When the sell price is 212.5, interest is 12.5 . So when sell price is 100, interest = 12.5/212.5 * 100.

You do realize that the part in red is done merely to turn the interest (as a number that's equal to 12.5/212.5 = 0.0588) into a percentage (equal to 0.0588*100% = 5.88%).
When the sell price is 100, then the interest is $5.88 because the interest rate is 5.88%, so we calculate 100*5.88% = 100*(5.88/100) = 5.88.
 
Mentallic said:
When the sell price is 100, then the interest is $5.88 because the interest rate is 5.88%, so we calculate 100*5.88% = 100*(5.88/100) = 5.88.
This my question, why can't we take selling price as 100, to get the interest rate.

Is it, we always take the interest percent from the cost price(=100) only and not from the selling price.
 
Because of the fact that the interest of the cost price was added to the cost price to give you the selling price. So to find that interest, you need to figure out the cost price first, because that's where the interest came from.
 
rajeshmarndi said:
Is it, we always take the interest percent from the cost price(=100) only and not from the selling price.

One answer is that it is a matter of convention.

10% interest on a starting amount of 100 would be 10 for a final amount of 110. Start with 100, end with 110 at 10% interest.
10% interest on an ending amount of 110 would be 11 for an initial amount of 99. Start with 99, end with 110 at 10% interest.

It is difficult to do business when the lender and the borrower cannot agree on what "10 percent" means. So one meaning is chosen and the other is discarded. The conventional choice is that interest is quoted on the starting balance. [This is a good choice since the amount that changes hands at the start of a loan is often fixed and the amount that will be repaid at the end of the loan is a quantity that may be haggled over]
 
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jbriggs444 said:
One answer is that it is a matter of convention.

10% interest on a starting amount of 100 would be 10 for a final amount of 110. Start with 100, end with 110 at 10% interest.
10% interest on an ending amount of 110 would be 11 for an initial amount of 99. Start with 99, end with 110 at 10% interest.

It is difficult to do business when the lender and the borrower cannot agree on what "10 percent" means. So one meaning is chosen and the other is discarded.

Thanks, this is what, I wanted to be sure.
 

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