Interested in physics but *Hate* computers....

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The discussion revolves around the challenges faced by a participant in a biophysics lab who is struggling with the necessity of computer programming skills, particularly in Matlab, despite having no formal training in coding. The conversation explores the intersection of physics and computer skills, emphasizing the importance of programming in modern research and the participant's desire to improve without a strong inclination towards software development.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that while it is possible to get by with minimal coding skills, having better computing skills can provide a significant advantage in physics.
  • Others argue that programming skills can be developed through practice and problem-solving rather than formal education, emphasizing the importance of motivation to solve specific problems.
  • A few participants express that the intimidation felt by the original poster is common and that patience from colleagues can facilitate learning at one's own pace.
  • Some contributions highlight that understanding mathematics is crucial in physics, and while computers can assist with calculations, they also require a level of proficiency to be effective.
  • Several participants recommend taking programming classes to build confidence and skills in coding, particularly for Matlab.
  • There are mentions of the potential for lab work to minimize computer time, though this may vary by field and lab resources.
  • Concerns are raised about the expectation of learning programming skills, especially in unpaid positions, and the need for supportive environments from supervisors and colleagues.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that programming skills are important in physics research, but there is no consensus on the necessity of being highly skilled in software to succeed. Some express that it is possible to contribute without extensive programming knowledge, while others assert that proficiency is essential for advancement.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects varying levels of comfort and experience with programming among participants, as well as differing opinions on the best approach to learning these skills. There are also implications regarding the expectations placed on students in unpaid positions, which may affect their learning experiences.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students in STEM fields, particularly those in physics or biophysics, who are facing challenges with programming and seeking advice on how to navigate their learning process in a lab environment.

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You mention in your first post you need to learn MATLAB. The good news is MATLAB is much easier to learn and get up to speed than many other lower-level languages like FORTRAN or C. MATLAB is high-level (i.e. further away from the computer). The tradeoff is many MATLAB applications does not run as quickly as the lower level languages. This slowness is likely not going to affect your work because the computer is plenty fast, unless you are doing very number intensive calculations.

MATLAB is quite intuitive if you are familiar with matrix theory.
 
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Delong said:
Yea but I came from a biology and chemistry background so my background in computer programming is literally zero. I guess I'll just have to accept that i like learning about physics but not enough where I am able to do research in it especially if it involves a lot of programming and computer work blegh...
The space to do biology/chemistry without knowledge of computers hasn't shrunk as much as it has in physics, but it's shrinking incredibly fast too.

The necessity of computer skills is just sort of a symptom of the times.
 
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