Internet of Brains: The Future of Minds & More

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The discussion revolves around the concept of connecting human brains to the internet, referred to as a "brainnet" or "brainternet." Participants explore the potential implications, benefits, and dangers of such technology, including its impact on communication, conflict resolution, education, and privacy concerns. The scope includes theoretical, conceptual, and speculative aspects of this futuristic innovation.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express excitement about the potential of a brainnet to enhance understanding and resolve conflicts by allowing direct sharing of thoughts and processes.
  • Others caution about the significant risks associated with hacking and privacy violations, suggesting that personal thoughts could become exposed and exploited.
  • One participant argues that the technology's capabilities should not be oversimplified, comparing it to merely sharing blood pressure readings, while others emphasize the instantaneous nature of thought sharing.
  • There is a technical explanation provided regarding the current implementation of brainternet, which involves live-streaming EEG signals rather than fully integrating brains into the internet.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the feasibility and hype surrounding the technology, suggesting it may be overestimated at this stage.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit a mix of enthusiasm and skepticism regarding the concept of a brainnet. While some see potential benefits, others highlight significant concerns and risks. There is no consensus on the implications or feasibility of the technology.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the speculative nature of the technology, the dependence on future advancements in brain-computer interfaces, and the unresolved ethical implications of such innovations.

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Individuals interested in neuroscience, technology, ethics, and the future of human communication may find this discussion relevant.

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Hello.
I have found out that scientists are planning and have connected a human brain to the internet to create a brainnet.
http://neurosciencenews.com/brain-internet-connection-7489/
http://www.businessinsider.com/brain-connected-to-internet-brainternet-2017-9?IR=T
http://www.iflscience.com/brain/scientists-connect-human-brain-internet-first-time/

Michio Kaku also talks about the subject in "The Future of the Mind".

An Internet of Brains might revolutionise the Internet and allow everyone to share everything straight from their own brains (emotions, experiences, skills) straight to the Internet.
You never know what the future holds!
What are your opinions on the topic?
This futuristic innovation has numerous has many dangers. Hacking the brain, brain damage, overload...
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/j5ggjy/the-dangers-of-the-brainternet

What do you think?
 
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ISamson said:
What do you think?

I think that this idea is amazing... to an extent.

One major way it can help us is to resolve any conflict or argument. I personally believe that the reason conflicts ever occur are because people cannot understand other people's opinion. Often, there is no way to share your personal intuition with another person. A good example I can think of is when I do math in my mind. I have several complex processes going on in my mind when doing math. Once somebody asks me how I do it, I cannot answer. At such times I wish I could share my brain process to another person to understand what I'm thinking. This same thought occurs to me when I have an argument. I have an logical process which allows me to make a conclusion, and I know that my opposition has one as well. If only I understood what the other person was thinking (directly from his mind), then I could correct him or correct my intuition. People have trouble fully understanding each other and this could be a solution.

Furthermore, teaching would become phenomenally easier. If someone could upload their knowledge for students to download, this would create a master race. One would not need to attend school, they just need a good WiFi connection. Of course, this is limited by the technology: to what extent is the brain able to process and interpret the data it is receiving. Perhaps there might be a new programming language designed around the brain or a special interpreting hardware to aid the brain ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

Nevertheless, we cannot address this software without turning to its obvious weakness: hacking. What once used to be the humans resort to private thoughts can easily become an open book to the human's entire life. Again depending on the extent of the technology, hackers can get information from people's memories, things that were never meant to be recorded. This could wreck havoc without the appropriate software. Some people could use the "brain-net" hardware to extract testimonies and confessions from people's thoughts forcefully.

I think that this is idea is amazing, but the disadvantages severely outweigh the advantages. Nice try NSA.
 
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ISamson said:
What do you think?

I think you didn't read this very carefully. There is no difference between this and putting, say, your blood pressure reading on the internet.
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
I think you didn't read this very carefully. There is no difference between this and putting, say, your blood pressure reading on the internet.
I beg to differ. Putting your blood pressure on the internet requires measuring and uploading the blood pressure. This is instantaneous. You can upload essays, posts, websites at the command of your mind onto the internet.

Your statement is like describing telekinesis as picking up and object. No, you're not just picking it up, you are picking it up with your MIND. Being able to upload and download information through your mind remotely is impressive. One cannot simply compare it with typing your blood pressure on the computer and uploading it.
 
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lekh2003 said:
I beg to differ. Putting your blood pressure on the internet requires measuring and uploading the blood pressure. This is instantaneous. You can upload essays, posts, websites at the command of your mind onto the internet.

No. Vanadium 50 is correct. Please read what they are aiming to do:

Brainternet works by converting electroencephalogram (EEG) signals (brain waves) in an open source brain live stream. A person wears a powered, mobile, internet accessible Emotiv EEG device for an extended period. During this time, the Emotiv transmits the EEG signals to a Raspberry Pi – a credit card sized little computer – live streams the signals to an application programming interface (code that allows software programmes to communicate), and displays data on a website that acts as a portal. This is currently an open website where the public can observe the individual’s brain activity.

They are live-streaming someone's EEG and making that data available on a public website. That's not exactly the same as turning the brain into an IoT node, regardless of what their long term, loftier goals may be.

I flag this as interesting and kind of cool, but severely overhyped at this time.
 
rkolter said:
No. Vanadium 50 is correct. Please read what they are aiming to do:
They are live-streaming someone's EEG and making that data available on a public website. That's not exactly the same as turning the brain into an IoT node, regardless of what their long term, loftier goals may be.

I flag this as interesting and kind of cool, but severely overhyped at this time.
Ah I see what you are saying. I'm just being optimistic, thinking further about the capabilities.
 
ISamson said:
What do you think?
I'm not sure...?

I wonder, though, if somebody "hacked" Michio Kaku's brain... would their TV automatically tune to The History Channel ?. :wink:
 
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