Interpreting the Constant c in a Savings Account Differential Equation

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The discussion revolves around interpreting the constant c in the context of a differential equation related to a savings account, specifically the equation dy/dt = ky - W, where Y represents the amount of money in the account, W is a constant withdrawal amount, and k is a growth rate constant.

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  • Participants explore the meaning of the constant c, with some suggesting it can be determined by initial conditions related to the savings account. There are discussions about the units of various terms in the equation and how they relate to the interpretation of c.

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The discussion is active, with multiple participants providing insights into the interpretation of c and its relationship to initial conditions. There is a focus on ensuring the mathematical consistency of the equation and the implications of the constants involved.

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Some participants note the lack of specific definitions for W and k, which may affect the interpretation of the initial conditions and the constant c. There is also mention of boundary conditions that may influence the value of c in practical scenarios.

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Hello! so I'm working on a homework problem where I need to
solve the diff equation dy/dt = ky - W
where Y is the amount of money in a savings account
W is a constant
k is another constant (growing at a percentage)
solving the diff equation

I got y = W(1/k) + ((c)/(e^-kx))

now my question is how do i interpret the constant c? what does the constant c mean?
 
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David Donald said:
(e^-kx)
That should be ##t##.
David Donald said:
what does the constant c mean?
##c## can be determined by the knowledge about the amount of the saving at a particular time.
 
"y" is "amount of money" in the account. It has units of, say, "dollars". "dy/dt" is the rate at which money goes into or out of the account. It has units of, say, "dollars per day". In order to have dy/dt= ky+ W, W must have units of "dollars per day" and k must have units of "per day" or "1/day".

Then, in y= W/k+ ce^(kt) (You have "c/e^(-kx)". Obviously, your "x" should be "t" and 1/e^(-kt) = e^(kt).)
Since k has units of "per day" and W "dollars per day", W/k has units of "dollars" as does y. Also t, the time, has units of "day" kt is "dimensionless" and e^(kt) also has no dimensions. That means that c must have dimensions of "dollars". Further, taking t= 0, we have y(0)= W/k+ c. c= y(0)- W/k. c is the amount of money in the account, initially, minus W/k. You don't say what "W" and "k" mean so I can't say what y(0)- W/k means.
 
HallsofIvy said:
"y" is "amount of money" in the account. It has units of, say, "dollars". "dy/dt" is the rate at which money goes into or out of the account. It has units of, say, "dollars per day". In order to have dy/dt= ky+ W, W must have units of "dollars per day" and k must have units of "per day" or "1/day".

Then, in y= W/k+ ce^(kt) (You have "c/e^(-kx)". Obviously, your "x" should be "t" and 1/e^(-kt) = e^(kt).)
Since k has units of "per day" and W "dollars per day", W/k has units of "dollars" as does y. Also t, the time, has units of "day" kt is "dimensionless" and e^(kt) also has no dimensions. That means that c must have dimensions of "dollars". Further, taking t= 0, we have y(0)= W/k+ c. c= y(0)- W/k. c is the amount of money in the account, initially, minus W/k. You don't say what "W" and "k" mean so I can't say what y(0)- W/k means.

It is easy enough to interpret k as a (compound) interest rate and W as a constant rate at which funds are withdrawn from the account.

Arbitrary constants of integration (such as c) often don't have any good interpretation in terms of the application. However, their values are completely forced by requirements which come from the application. Here, for example, you might be interested in what the initial balance must be if the balance of the account is to be zero at some fixed time, or you might be interested in whether the balance will ever become zero given a specific initial balance.
 
HallsofIvy said:
"y" is "amount of money" in the account. It has units of, say, "dollars". "dy/dt" is the rate at which money goes into or out of the account. It has units of, say, "dollars per day". In order to have dy/dt= ky+ W, W must have units of "dollars per day" and k must have units of "per day" or "1/day".

Then, in y= W/k+ ce^(kt) (You have "c/e^(-kx)". Obviously, your "x" should be "t" and 1/e^(-kt) = e^(kt).)
Since k has units of "per day" and W "dollars per day", W/k has units of "dollars" as does y. Also t, the time, has units of "day" kt is "dimensionless" and e^(kt) also has no dimensions. That means that c must have dimensions of "dollars". Further, taking t= 0, we have y(0)= W/k+ c. c= y(0)- W/k. c is the amount of money in the account, initially, minus W/k. You don't say what "W" and "k" mean so I can't say what y(0)- W/k means.

W is an amount that is getting withdrawed each year
and K is a percentage based growth
 
David Donald said:
W is an amount that is getting withdrawed each year
and K is a percentage based growth
As pasmith wrote, the constant is what allows you to fit the solution to the boundary conditions in the actual problem.
But check the signs in your solution. If you substitute it back into the differential equation does it look right?
 

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