Inverse of Logarithm: Understanding ax

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This discussion revolves around understanding the inverse of a logarithmic function, specifically the relationship between the function f(x) = log_a(x) and its inverse. Participants are exploring the notation and reasoning behind the inverse being expressed as a^x.

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  • Participants are attempting to clarify the notation used in defining functions and their inverses. There is a focus on the switching of variables and how this relates to the concept of inverse functions. Some participants question the consistency of using "x" and "y" in different contexts.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and clarifications regarding the notation and process of finding inverses. There is recognition of the potential confusion stemming from variable usage, and some guidance has been offered on how to approach the problem conceptually.

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Participants express uncertainty about the implications of variable changes in the context of inverse functions, and there is mention of the importance of being explicit with variable definitions to avoid confusion.

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Hello!
Run into trouble...again.
This concerns the inverse function of a logarithm
If a function maps x on to logax, then the inverse maps logax on to x.
So, f(x) = logax, can be presented as y=logax; therefore, x=ay.
The book states that the inverse is ax, why is this the inverse?
I tried determining the inverse by using a basic inverse:
f(x)=3x+1
f-1(x)=(x-1)/3
If x=2
Then, f(x)=3*2+1=7
and f-1(x)=(7-1)/3=2
If the product of logax=y, going the other way involves ay=x, yet the inverse is, apparently, ax.
I don't see why this is so...

P.S. Happy voting!
 
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So, f(x) = logax, can be presented as y=logax; therefore, x=ay.

You are correct. I think the book is just redefining "x". Kind of the way you did when you used x in both the function and inverse function definitions...

f(x)=3x+1
f-1(x)=(x-1)/3

It's better to be explicit about a different "x" and "y" for the two different directions...
 
Your work is correct; the difference is mostly a matter of notation.

One old1 trick for finding inverses of functions is to begin by reversing the roles of x and y at the start. The complete process would look like this.

<br /> \begin{align*}<br /> f(x) &amp; = \log_a x \\<br /> y &amp; = \log_a x \tag{Now switch variables}\\<br /> x &amp; =\log_a y\\<br /> a^x &amp; = y,<br /> \end{align*}<br />

so the inverse function has equation

<br /> y = a^x<br />

We are accustomed to writing functions in the y = form in early math courses.

Footnote 1: I know this is an old procedure because I learned it when I was in high school: if it has been around that long, it is indeed old.
 
Thanks for the quick replies! The responses are much appreciated, and even tickled me :smile:, not something one would associate with a maths help forum!
So ax is really ay 'in disguise', since it is the inverse function the y is now the x?
 
Don't write "x" and "y" in isolation. That is what is confusing you. The functions f(x)= ln(x) or f(y)= ln(y) or f(z)= ln(z) are all exactly the same function.

If f(x)= ln(x) then f-1(x)= ex or f-1(y)= ey or f-1(a)= ea, etc. it doesn't matter what you call the variable.
 
Okay, I thought I had it...
If f(x)=y, then f(x)=logax, and ay=x, and so af-1(x)=x?
If f(x)=logax and the inverse is ax, and I attempt an equation it doesn't work... x has to change going in the different 'ends', and so x in the new equation (the inverse) is y on the first equation...
I appreciate this may be getting tiresome to explain... but please bear with me! :smile:
Thanks!
 
Sure it does
a^{log_a x}= x
and
log_a(a^x)= x

Once again, f(x)= loga(x), f(y)= loga(y), f(z)= loga(z), etc. are all exactly the same function.
 
The notation is getting to you.

<br /> \begin{align*}<br /> f(x) &amp; = \log_a x\\<br /> y &amp; = \log_a x \\<br /> x &amp; = \log_a y\\<br /> a^x &amp; = y<br /> \end{align*}<br />

This means that the function f(x) = \log_a x has as its inverse

<br /> f^{-1}(x) = a^x<br />
 

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