Investigating Comet 67P's Elliptical Orbit

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The discussion revolves around the conservation of energy in the context of a comet's elliptical orbit, specifically Comet 67P. The original poster is attempting to compare the mechanical energy at the aphelion and perihelion points to determine if they are equal, while also exploring the time it takes for the comet to reach its perihelion from its current position.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate mechanical energy at different points in the orbit but finds discrepancies. They also seek a simpler method to determine the time to perihelion, questioning the applicability of Kepler's 2nd Law due to varying speeds.

Discussion Status

Participants have provided feedback on the need for consistent units in calculations and the appropriate use of significant figures. There is an ongoing exploration of the original poster's approach and the assumptions made in their calculations.

Contextual Notes

The original poster notes that they are not a physics student and are working on this topic for a math report, indicating a potential gap in foundational knowledge of astrophysics concepts.

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Homework Statement


Currently, I am trying to prove the "conservation of energy" concept within a comet's elliptical orbit by finding the mechanical energy of the aphelion and perihelion point to see if they're equal. However, they don't equal each other when I calculate both points.
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(aphelion, perihelion and semi-major axis given in AU)
Comet Mass: 2.8x1012 kg

Homework Equations


I understand that the mechanical energy equation is:
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and that to find the velocity variable, the equation must be rearranged by substituting ME with MEbound
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to obtain this:

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The Attempt at a Solution


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Thank you in advance for the help! I'm actually not a physics student, so all these astrophysics concepts are new to me. I'm doing it for a math report investigating comet 67P's elliptical orbits. While I'm posting this thread, I'm also having trouble coming up with a way to find the amount of time it will take comet 67P to reach its perihelion point given its current distance from the sun in the orbit. I'm aware of Kepler's 2nd Law, so I know I can't find the average speed of the comet since it varies along its orbit. Is there a way for me to find the remaining amount of time the comet has before reaching its perihelion? Its current position is at 312.78 Million Km. I'd prefer if the equation or solution was simple (much simpler than Kepler's equation), as this is just a high school math report that's too advanced.

Thank you again!
 

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I don't know whether this is your problem, but you need to use a consistent set of units. Specifically, you need to convert the AU to meters. As it is, your answers certainly are not in joules.
 
And you don't need to use an absurd number of decimal places in your calculations. You know the mass of the comet to only two significant figures (2.8*1012 kg).
 
For reference, the speed of light is 299 792 458 m / s. Comets (and everything else) travel at less than this velocity. It's like a fundamental law of the Universe.
 

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