Is 27 - (a - b)^3 a Difference of Cubes in Precalculus?

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The discussion revolves around the expression 27 - (a - b)^3 and whether it can be factored as a difference of cubes in the context of precalculus. Participants explore the application of the difference of cubes formula and the implications of notation and expansion in the factoring process.

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  • Some participants assert that 27 - (a - b)^3 can be expressed as 3^3 - (a - b)^3, suggesting it fits the difference of cubes formula.
  • Others propose using the difference of cubes formula a^3 - b^3 = (a - b)(a^2 + ab + b^2) with a = 3 and b = (a - b), leading to a specific factorization.
  • Concerns are raised about the notation where 'a' is used for two different purposes, which some participants argue complicates the expression.
  • Participants discuss the correct expansion of (a - b)^2, with some asserting that it should not be simplified to (a - b)(a + b) but rather expanded correctly in the context of the difference of cubes.
  • There are differing views on the correctness of the steps taken in the factorization process, with some participants claiming to have made mistakes while others believe their steps were correct.

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Participants express differing opinions on the notation and the steps involved in the factorization process. There is no consensus on the correctness of the various approaches and expansions discussed.

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Precalculus by David Cohen, 3rd Edition
Chapter 1, Section 1.3.
Question 54.

Factor the expression.

27 - (a - b)^3

Must I expand (a - b)^3 or is this expression the difference of cubes?
 
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RTCNTC said:
Precalculus by David Cohen, 3rd Edition
Chapter 1, Section 1.3.
Question 54.

Factor the expression.

27 - (a - b)^3

Must I expand (a - b)^3 or is this expression the difference of cubes?

difference of 2 cubes $3^3-(a-b)^3$
 
27 - (a - b)^3

3^3 - (a - b)^3

The difference of cubes formula:

a^3 – b^3 = (a – b)(a^2 + ab + b^2)

I will let a = 3 and b = (a - b).

(3 - (a - b))(3^2 + 3(a - b) + (a - b)^2)
 
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RTCNTC said:
27 - (a - b)^3

3^3 - (a - b)^3

The difference of cubes formula:

a^3 – b^3 = (a – b)(a^2 + ab + b^2)

I will let a = 3 and b = (a - b).

(3 - (a - b))(3^2 + 3(a - b) + (a - b)^2)

(3 - a + b)(9 + 3a - 3b + (a - b)(a + b))

(3 - a + b)(9 + 3a - 3b + a^2 -- b^2)

I cannot simplify anymore.

there are 2 issues here

a = 3 and b = (a - b) is bad notation .your are using a for 2 different purposes. you could use $x^3-y^3$ with $x=3$ and $y = a-b$

secondly $(a-b)^2$ you have changed to $(a-b)(a+b)$
 
kaliprasad said:
there are 2 issues here

a = 3 and b = (a - b) is bad notation .your are using a for 2 different purposes. you could use $x^3-y^3$ with $x=3$ and $y = a-b$

secondly $(a-b)^2$ you have changed to $(a-b)(a+b)$

In that case, can you work it out for me step by step?
 
RTCNTC said:
In that case, can you work it out for me step by step?

your steps are correct till you instead of expanding $(a-b)^2$ did $(a-b)(a+b) $ and I work it out here

$27-(a-b)^3$
= $3^3-(a-b)^3$
$= (3-(a-b))(3^2 + (a-b) + (a-b)^2)$
$= (3-a + b) ( 3^2 + a - b + a^2-2ab +b^2)$
 
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kaliprasad said:
your steps are correct till you instead of expanding $(a-b)^2$ did $(a-b)(a+b) $ and I work it out here

$27-(a-b)^3$
= $3^3-(a-b)^3$
$= (3-(a-b))(3 + (a-b) + (a-b)^2)$

This last step should be:

$$\left(3-(a-b)\right)\left(3^2+3(a-b)+(a-b)^2\right)$$ :D
 
MarkFL said:
This last step should be:

$$\left(3-(a-b)\right)\left(3^2+3(a-b)+(a-b)^2\right)$$ :D

I made it that far and beyond.
 
MarkFL said:
This last step should be:

$$\left(3-(a-b)\right)\left(3^2+3(a-b)+(a-b)^2\right)$$ :D

Thanks mark. my mistake
 
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I had it right all along.
 

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