Is a Cosmology PhD a Dead End or a Gateway to Diverse Career Opportunities?

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The discussion revolves around the potential career paths following a PhD in cosmology, particularly focusing on the transition to other fields such as condensed matter physics. Participants explore the implications of specializing in cosmology and the marketability of skills acquired during such a program.

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  • One participant expresses concern about the specialization in cosmology limiting future career options, particularly regarding a transition to condensed matter physics.
  • Another participant argues that a PhD in cosmology is not a dead end and suggests that the computational skills gained from numerical analysis could be applicable in various industries.
  • A different viewpoint indicates that having a background in observational or numerical cosmology may not qualify someone for industry roles in condensed matter, as they lack specific experience in that field.
  • Some participants propose that skills from numerical cosmology, such as computational techniques, are transferable to other heavily computational fields like computational fluid dynamics or numerical finance.
  • There is a discussion about public perception of cosmology, with some participants noting that popular topics often focus on the big bang and string theory, which may not reflect the broader scope of cosmological research.
  • One participant suggests that a PhD in cosmology equips individuals with a versatile skill set, potentially allowing them to tackle problems in various fields.
  • Concerns are raised about the perceived disconnect between theoretical cosmology topics and their practical applications, particularly regarding string theory and its relevance to cosmology.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on whether a PhD in cosmology is a limiting factor for future career opportunities. Multiple competing views exist regarding the transferability of skills and the relevance of cosmological research to other fields.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of confidence in the applicability of their skills to other fields, highlighting a lack of consensus on the perceived value of a cosmology PhD in the job market.

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I've asked a similar question earlier already, but I want to be more specific now.
I'm contemplating doing a PhD in cosmology (mainly numerical analysis of galaxy observations). It's a good group with a good international standing. I'm just a bit worried about the time after my PhD. How specialized in cosmology/astronomy would I be after a PhD in that area? Is there a way to get into a less competitive field like condensed matter, stat. mechanics, cold atoms, ... after that, assuming that I did a good job in cosmo or is the only way to do my PhD in the field that I want to end up in?
Thanks
 
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Sure it draws more people than CM but for good reasons, it is a much more stirring subject. I don't think it is a dead end at all(it's not string theory). Also, it sounds like from the type of research you'll be doing you'd be well positions for non-academic jobs after the Ph.D. if need be.
 
Hi, thanks for you reply. By dead-end, I just meant, is there a way cosmo -> CM after the PhD, especially taking into account that I've been working numerically a lot or will I be committed to cosmo forever?
 
Having done a PhD in observational / numerical cosmology, I do not feel at all qualified for any kind of industry job in condensed matter or related fields. I've done nothing at all in those fields; I'd be as useless as an undergrad (no offense to undergrads).
 
If you work on something heavily numerical (i.e. massive galaxy formation simulations), that gives you computational skills that are marketable elsewhere. Also it's not hugely difficult to move from one heavily computational field to another (i.e. numerical cosmology -> CFD or numerical finance.)

The problem with cosmology is that when people think cosmology they think big bang and string theory, which moves things away from the problems which I think are more interesting and useful.
 
twofish-quant said:
If you work on something heavily numerical (i.e. massive galaxy formation simulations), that gives you computational skills that are marketable elsewhere. Also it's not hugely difficult to move from one heavily computational field to another (i.e. numerical cosmology -> CFD or numerical finance.)

The problem with cosmology is that when people think cosmology they think big bang and string theory, which moves things away from the problems which I think are more interesting and useful.

Well how could you expect most people to think any differently? Anytime I have searched on the internet or read anything in a science magazine about cosmology more often than not they are talking about inflation, big bang nucleosynthesis, galactic spiral arms, GRB's, etc...I mean this is what cosmologists study right? Or am I mislead?

I think these subjects are very interesting and captivating to read about, even when I myself may not be interested in pursuing a career in it. Also, I would think(from what I have read) that someone who could get a PhD in Cosmology could honestly tackle anything, and probably has quite a bit of a skill set, hence could go into other fields with not too much trouble. Is this not what cosmology is like?
 
nlsherrill said:
Anytime I have searched on the internet or read anything in a science magazine about cosmology more often than not they are talking about inflation, big bang nucleosynthesis, galactic spiral arms, GRB's, etc...I mean this is what cosmologists study right? Or am I mislead?

Just to clarify, I meant quantum gravity and string theory, which has turned out to be useless to cosmology so far. Also there is a lot here that is missing. Galactic evolution and the dark ages are pretty active.

Also, I would think(from what I have read) that someone who could get a PhD in Cosmology could honestly tackle anything, and probably has quite a bit of a skill set, hence could go into other fields with not too much trouble. Is this not what cosmology is like?

Cosmology gets you some useful skills, but it's not any different from say condensed matter theory or predicting hurricanes. What I think gets missed is that cosmology is an highly experimental area of physics.
 
lubuntu said:
Sure it draws more people than CM

What? Do you know so?

lubuntu said:
I don't think it is a dead end at all(it's not string theory). Also, it sounds like from the type of research you'll be doing you'd be well positions for non-academic jobs after the Ph.D. if need be.

So you have managed to a rigorous rebuttal to String Theory as a candidate then?
 

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