Is a Day Truly 24 Hours Long?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of a day being 24 hours long, specifically addressing the timing of the transition from one day to the next and the inclusion of the final second of the day. Participants explore the implications of how time is measured and perceived in relation to the start and end of a day.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that a day is indeed 24 hours long, with the last second of the day counted as part of that duration.
  • Others clarify that the day ends at the conclusion of the last second, suggesting that 00:00:00 marks the beginning of the next day.
  • One participant compares the counting of days to measuring Lego blocks, indicating that the end point of a day is included in the total count.
  • A different analogy is presented regarding how many times the hour hand points to 12 in a day, illustrating the complexity of defining start and end points in time measurement.
  • Several participants express confusion about the timing of 00:00:00 and whether it is part of the previous day or the start of a new day.
  • There is a discussion about the nature of seconds and how they are counted, with emphasis on the transition between the last second of one day and the first second of the next.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the final second of the day is counted, but there is ongoing debate about the implications of how days are defined and measured, particularly regarding the transition at 00:00:00.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the nuances in the definition of a day and the measurement of time, with various assumptions about how time intervals are counted and perceived. There are unresolved questions about the implications of these definitions on the understanding of time.

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Hey peple i always have this doubt ^^ the people say the day have 24 hours right? so the day begin at 00:00 a clock for example if the day 1 begin at 00:00 a clock ends 23:59 and 59 secounds right ?? so isn't 24 hours cause lack 1 secound right? thanks for future answers.
 
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Hi, darksoda,
the last second of the day begins at 23:59:59, but the day does not end at the beginning of the last second; it ends at the end of the last second.

It's like having 10 Lego blocks in a row, and measuring only 9 because you measure from the beginning of the first block to the beginning of the last block.
 
thanks for the answer so let's see if i understand ^^ 0:00 is other day right ? so this one secound is counted before 0:00 ?
 
Its sort of for the same reason that when you go on a vacation you stay for seven days but only for six nights. You are counting by the end point, but as Dodo said the more important thing to count is the duration of the whole second.
 
Well, this is similar to asking how many times in a day does the hour hand point to 12.

If one meant "in a day" to mean a single instance of a day, then the end points of the day are included and the answer is 3 because it starts at 12, passes 12 at noon, and ends at 12.

But, if "in a day" was meant to mean over some series of days, then you have to adjust the idea of a day length so as to not count the 12's twice as the ending of one day and the beginning of the next. Each day length interval has one end point included and the other open... with an additional interval end point either at the beginning or end of the series.

So you set a convention that either says 12 is the beginning of a day, or 12 is the end of a day when two days are contiguous. That gives each day 2 12's but leaves on extra 12 either at the beginning or end of the series of days, depending on which convention you choose.

So for one day you would have 3 12's (1x2)+1... (stealing the formula from below, but this is not how the calculation would be for the one day instance; but its consistent)
For two days, 5 12's (2x2)+1
three days, 7 12's (3x2)+1
So number of days=N, then number of 12's is (Nx2)+1

The series trends to 2/day...
1 day->3/1=3
2 days->5/2=2.5
3 day->7/3=2.3333
100 days-> (201 12's)/100=2.01
1000 days-> (2001)/1000=2.001
10,000 days->20,001/10,000=2.0001

...where the indefinite length of the series of days allows the number of 12's "per/day" to be general ("2"), for any finite segment of the indefinite series where either convention gives each day one inclusive and one exclusive end point for its length interval.
But that must be seen similar to a "rate". The number of actual 12's counted in a finite series of days standing apart from the indefinite series must include the additional 12 that is the beginning or end of the finite series, depending on the convention chosen.
 
darksoda said:
thanks for the answer so let's see if i understand ^^ 0:00 is other day right ? so this one secound is counted before 0:00 ?
0:00:00 is the exact frontier between last night and this morning. The numbers are, so to speak, located *between* the span of the whole seconds: the first second begins at 0:00:00 and ends at 0:00:01, the 2nd second goes from 0:00:01 to 0:00:02, and so on.
 
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thanks for all who answer so we really count the final secound ^^
 
Look at a watch, when the second hand is on 59 it takes 1 second to flick to 00. This is the 60th second.
 
darksoda said:
thanks for all who answer so we really count the final secound ^^
Why wouldn't we? Any time before 00:00:00 counts as the same day, because 00:00:00 is exactly when the next day starts. So, between 11:59:59 and 00:00:00 is one second of time passing in the same day.
 

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