Is a Function from R^n to R^m Considered a 0-Form on R^n?

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The discussion revolves around the classification of functions from R^n to R^m in the context of differential geometry, specifically whether such functions can be considered 0-forms. Participants explore definitions and implications of 0-forms, k-forms, and the nature of alternating multilinear maps.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether a function from R^n to R^m can be classified as a 0-form, or if 0-forms are strictly functions from R^n to R.
  • One participant references the definition of a p-form and suggests that a 0-form is an element of the scalar field k, implying it is a real number in the context of R.
  • Another participant cites Spivak's definition of k-forms, noting that for k=0, a 0-form is treated separately as a function f, and expresses uncertainty about whether this function is indeed from R^n to R.
  • There is a discussion about the nature of 0-forms on the tangent bundle to R^n, with one participant asserting that a 0-form is a map from R^n to R, aligning with their earlier point about pointwise evaluation.
  • One participant raises a question about the definition of forms as alternating tensors, seeking clarification on the significance of alternating properties versus arbitrary tensors.
  • Another participant discusses the algebraic perspective of forms capturing first-order differential information, emphasizing the importance of alternating differentials.
  • A geometric interpretation is introduced, describing how two vectors combine to form a bivector representing area, reinforcing the need for the alternating property.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the classification of 0-forms, with some asserting that they are functions from R^n to R, while others suggest broader interpretations may exist. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these definitions.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the definitions of forms, the assumptions about the scalar field, and the implications of alternating versus non-alternating tensors. These aspects are not fully resolved within the thread.

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Is a function from R^n to R^m for aritrary m a considered a 0-form on R^n, or does 0-form refers only to functions from R^n to R ?
 
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What's the definition of a p-form on R^n ?
 
quasar987 said:
Is a function from R^n to R^m for aritrary m a considered a 0-form on R^n, or does 0-form refers only to functions from R^n to R ?
If you have a finite dimensional vector space V with scalar field k, then the space of n-forms is isomorphic to the space of alternating multilinear maps Vn --> k.

In particular, a 0-form is an element of k.



In the typical setting of differential geometry, when analyzing a single point, your scalar field is R and your vector space is the tangent space, so a 0-form would simply be a real number. But more exotic things are possible, and sometimes even fruitful.
 
In 'Calculus on manifolds', Spivak defines a k-form on R^n as a function w sending a point p of R^n to an alternating multilinear maps (R^n)^k-->R.

This makes sense only for k>0, so he treats the case k=0 separately by saying that by a 0-form we mean a function f.

I was 90% sure he meant a function f:R^n-->R but wanted to make sure.
 
quasar987 said:
In 'Calculus on manifolds', Spivak defines a k-form on R^n as a function w sending a point p of R^n to an alternating multilinear maps (R^n)^k-->R.

This makes sense only for k>0, so he treats the case k=0 separately by saying that by a 0-form we mean a function f.

I was 90% sure he meant a function f:R^n-->R but wanted to make sure.

Well, it really does make sense for k=0: an A-valued function of 0 variables is the same thing as an element of A, and it's vacuously true that such a thing is alternating and 0-linear.

So a 0-form on the tangent bundle to R^n is, indeed, a map R^n --> R. This agrees with what I said pointwise -- if f is such a thing, then f(P) is a 0-form on the tangent space at P, which is the same thing as an element of R.
 
Why are forms defined specifically as sending points to alternating tensors? What's wrong with good old arbitrary tensors? Or equivalently, what's so special about alternating ones?
 
Integrating along an opposite orientation should give you the opposite answer -- thus the sign change.

From an algebraic perspective, they are trying to capture first-order differential information -- thus you want dx dx = 0. An immediate consequence of this identity is that differentials must be alternating.
 
I like your answer :)
 
Oh, and there's a geometric picture too -- given two vectors, you want to combine them to form a bivector that represents the area swept out by your vectors. So this product too should satisfy v v = 0. And since 1-forms are dual to tangent vectors...
 
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