Is AI going to be a banned topic?

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Moderation issues regarding discussions on AI have raised concerns about potential bans on the topic. Participants express frustration over the lack of expertise in AI threads, noting that many contributions are superficial and lack depth. There is a call for consolidating AI discussions into a single thread to improve quality and focus. Additionally, some users feel that moderation decisions are arbitrary and influenced by personal biases, limiting productive dialogue. The conversation highlights the challenges of maintaining meaningful discussions in an environment where opinions vary widely.
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I seem to be getting in moderation trouble for talking about AI in an honest way. Is PF moving towards banning the topic? Where is this headed?
 
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We have far too many threads about AIs. And all are substandard as I haven't seen anybody with knowledge: no expertise on neural networks, no references to scientific articles, no programmers, nothing. Just copy and paste from pop science articles elsewhere. I even saw a thread (or two?) about consciousness. You can't even define what it is outside philosophy.

I think we should have exactly one single thread in "General Discussion" for anything about AI, or ChatGPT, or alike, as long as the words "neural network" aren't part of the first post.
 
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To be honest, I find most of the AI threads exhausting, but not bannable.
 
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In the thread that got me 10 day banned, and then not so slyly threatened by a moderator who made it clear he knows my identity and activity at other places, it doesn't seem clear to me how my posts were any more or less acceptable than the other's who disagreed with me and then moved to ban me for it.

There is a level of arbitrary decision making at the hands of somehow strongly opinionated people, and those opinions happen to be contrary to most of the mainstream opinions. So it leaves little room for much of a productive discussion.
 
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In the thread that got me 10 day banned, and then not so slyly threatened by a moderator who made it clear he knows my identity and activity at other places, it doesn't seem clear to me how my posts were any more or less acceptable than the other's who disagreed with me and then moved to ban me for it.

There is an level arbitrary decision making at the hands of somehow strongly opinionated people, and those opinions happen to be contrary to most of the mainstream opinions. So it leaves little room for much of a discussion.
I wasn't involved so I had no idea what you are talking about. However, I looked up the first deleted post of yours on the matter and you surely do not want to discuss it on a linguistic level! Just a hint: sentences that start with "you" and end up with claiming what a thread is really about without being the thread owner is never a good idea. "You" sentences have a high risk of being offensive.

As this thread is obviously more about the temporary ban than it is about AI threads in general, I will close this now.

To any readers who are interested in discussing the AI subject: please have a forum search what we already are discussing.

Thank you.
 
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