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The discussion centers on the perception that America is evolving into a form of monarchy, with political power concentrated among a few prominent families, notably the Bushes and Clintons. The irony is highlighted by the long tenure of these families in leadership roles, suggesting a dynastic trend that undermines democratic ideals. Critics argue that this creates a political aristocracy where connections often outweigh qualifications for government positions. Concerns are raised about the implications of such a system, including the potential for authoritarianism and the erosion of democratic principles. The conversation reflects a broader dissatisfaction with the political landscape, emphasizing the need for change in a system perceived as corrupt and self-serving.
  • #31
drankin said:
:smile:
I'm curious, who would be the "invaders" to bring this about?

Tibet?:bugeye:
 
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  • #32
baywax said:
Tibet?:bugeye:

That's not funny, man! Those Tibetans don't mess around.
 
  • #33
drankin said:
:smile:
I'm curious, who would be the "invaders" to bring this about?
I thought Mexico had already seized a couple of states :wink:

(thats for Edward lol)

As for the question in the OP - Not in a million years.
 
  • #34
Art said:
I thought Mexico had already seized a couple of states :wink:

(thats for Edward lol)

Yep, at least California.
 
  • #35
Art said:
As for the question in the OP - Not in a million years.

Considering how the President treated the English monarch recently; mistakenly dating her last visit to have taken place in 1776, I'd say there is no way, in a million years, that the US could find the composure and restraint to support and abide by the rule of a monarchy. However, the US govt is well on its way to mimicing the operations of a Monarchy.
 
  • #36
Anttech said:
George Bush 89-93
Bill Clinton 93-03
George w Bush 01--09
Hilary Clinton?? 09--

See a pattern?


To me this is against all of what a Democracy should be about...

Yes, the pattern is a swing from one ideology to another and back again...politics.

All these people were ELECTED by the people and that IS what a democracy is all about.
 
  • #37
BoomBoom said:
Yes, the pattern is a swing from one ideology to another and back again...politics.

All these people were ELECTED by the people and that IS what a democracy is all about.

oh don't be so simplistic. Just because there are formal democratic structures doesn't guarantee it's what 'democracy is all about'. Iraq had formal democratic structures, I don't think anyone would actually argue Saddam was a democratic leader.
 
  • #38
in the US we have the right hand vs the left hand, but few see they are attached to the same corporate body where all the money and power comes from. Democracy is the people up, the US is the government imposing from the top down and in general the rule by ghosts who's will is difficult to override by the living. In many casing disregarding the desire of the people all together. By giving people the ILLUSION of a say, it makes it very difficult for the masses to conspire and revolt... which is why the gov't gets so upset when fewer and fewer people are voting... they understand that many of them are arming.
 
  • #39
Democracy exist to elect presidents, senators, etc. But factions exist to make financial decisions of a community or corporation. IF you take the factions away, you take away people's loans, credit cards, house, car, etc. Everything else aside, monarchies are just traditional style plays for the public's amusement. Bush isn't exactly a Rockefeller then again it is not exactly a peanut farmer.
 

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