Is an answer possible - Conditional Probability

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The discussion revolves around conditional probability, specifically focusing on the notation and interpretation of p(abc) and its derivation. Participants explore the implications of insufficient information in the problem statement and the representation of probabilities through tree diagrams and Venn diagrams.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss how to derive p(c|ab) and question the solvability of the problem. They also explore how to represent a range of probabilities and the differences between various probability notations.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing insights and clarifications about the notation and potential representations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the range of probabilities and the use of diagrams, but no consensus has been reached on the overall solution.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted lack of sufficient information in the problem statement, which participants acknowledge as a constraint in deriving a singular answer.

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Homework Statement
p(a)=0.75
p(b|a)=0.9
p(b|a')=0.8
p(c|a'b)=0.7
p(c|a'b')=0.3
p(c|ab')=0.6
(These are the only data I was given)
Find p(abc)?
Relevant Equations
p(abc) = p(a)p(b|a)p(c|ab)
I am a noob to this topic so correct me If I made any silly mistake. By plugging in the values I managed to get

p(abc)=0.75*0.9*p(c|ab)
Here How can I find p(c|ab)? Is this question unsolvable or can I derive it?
I also want to know what is meant by p(abc) in literary terms.

I also created a Tree Diagram for the question(Correct me if there is any mistake)
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Your tree looks right.

I think you don't have enough information in the problem statement to produce an singular answer. You could provide a range of probabilities, though.

"p(abc)" = P(a, b, c) = is a notation for the probability of a and b and c happening.
 
lewando said:
I think you don't have enough information in the problem statement to produce an singular answer. You could provide a range of probabilities, though.

"p(abc)" = P(a, b, c) = is a notation for the probability of a and b and c happening.
How can I get a range of probabilities? (My guess is From 0 to 0.675, How can I represent this range Symbolically?)
How can I represent the above tree chart in a venn diagram?
Are there any difference between p(abc), p(a and b and c), p(a∩b∩c )

THANK YOU
 
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Manasan3010 said:
How can I get a range of probabilities? (My guess is From 0 to 0.675, How can I represent this range Symbolically?)
Your guess is right, but why guess? You should be able to rationalize this.
How about: 0.675 >= p(abc) >= 0
How can I represent the above tree chart in a venn diagram?
Have you tried researching "3-event Venn diagrams"? There are plenty of examples (3 overlapping circles in a rectangular sample space) "out there". The sample space will consist of 8 non-overlapping regions. These correspond to the 8 "endpoints" of your tree.
Are there any difference between p(abc), p(a and b and c), p(a∩b∩c )
No.
 
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